Terminator Genisys (Alan Taylor)

[Dukefrukem]

[Morris Schæffer]

http://www.craveonline.com/entertain...eal-big-secret

the scripters talk about it and what some of it means. They spill the beans on the matt smith character at the bottom.

[Henry Gale]

http://www.craveonline.com/entertain...eal-big-secret

the scripters talk about it and what some of it means. They spill the beans on the matt smith character at the bottom.

Why would they not have that front and center to his character!?

There's literally no narrative benefit to keeping the information they talk about there from the crux of the storytelling. It's so much cooler and more structurally sound to know the exact conduit for the timeline altering being him and his universe-bending journey (rather than just, "I've come a long way..."). It's something they clearly thought out, but the movie fails to connect to. (Even if there is a bit of dialogue that includes it, it doesn't drive it home as enough of a key element.)

[Lazlo]

Why would they not have that front and center to his character!?

There's literally no narrative benefit to keeping the information they talk about there from the crux of the storytelling. It's so much cooler and more structurally sound to know the exact conduit for the timeline altering being him and his universe-bending journey (rather than just, "I've come a long way..."). It's something they clearly thought out, but the movie fails to connect to. (Even if there is a bit of dialogue that includes it, it doesn't drive it home as enough of a key element.)

Yeah, what a bunch of bullshit. There's no way to know or understand what he means by, "I've come a long way." What a clumsy, nonsensical movie.

[Morris Schæffer]

44 million since tuesday, the worst opening for a Terminator sequel ever although internationally it now already sits at 129 million and is projected to make 400 eventually.

[MadMan]

T3 was good fun at least. Something neither of the last two films appear to be.

[TGM]

The movie's relentlessly complicated in the dumbest possible ways. But to me it's chief sin is its boring, slow, and wayy too long. Like you say, if it was at all fun all the nonsense could be ignored (see Jurassic World). But Genisys is so so goddamn bland that you can't help but dwell on how little sense it makes.

Swap Terminator Genisys and Jurassic World in this paragraph, and you have my thoughts on the movie. This currently stands as the most underrated movie of the year for me.

[Dukefrukem]

Better than Salvation, but not by much. I really enjoyed seeing some of the classic scenes from 1984 Terminator being remade, even if some of the actors were recast such as Bill Paxton's punk. But seeing the department store scene and the Terminator arriving at the observatory was very nostalgic. Dialog was very clunky . Scenes move to and from chase scenes to exposition / set piece. J. K. Simmons is the best thing about this movie.

Still a nay.

[Henry Gale]

Well good news everyone even tho this tanked in nearly every English-speaking country and Europe it made big waves in china so we liekly gettin a nu 1 oh boy 0 10010110101011..

[Dukefrukem]

The after credit scene sets up the sequel.

[Henry Gale]

The after credit scene sets up the sequel.

As a normcore franchise movie in 2015, I would've been more surprised and impressed if it didn't.

Maybe the worst empty proposition credits sequel set-up I can recall since Green Lantern's "Hey, Sinestro's bad now! See you back here never!".....

Genisys audience member that doesn't exist: OOOH! A glowing red orb AND a hologram appearing to look at it for a second!?!!?!??? I NEED TO SEE THIS NEXT ONE ASAP.[/SPOILER]

[Dukefrukem]

Lol. Yeh I hear you Henry.

[Milky Joe]

I thought this was pretty good. *shrug* The more paradoxes the better, I say. Sad that they seem to be putting the franchise on hold, I would gladly watch another one of these.

Also: did I miss it or did they never explain who it was that sent the T-800 back to protect Sarah as a girl? Even J.C. did not know. I was really intrigued by that.

[Dukefrukem]

Also: did I miss it or did they never explain who it was that sent the T-800 back to protect Sarah as a girl? Even J.C. did not know. I was really intrigued by that.

I chalked that up to being a plot point in the next movie.

[Milky Joe]

Yeah, looks like they were saving that reveal for the third film in the proposed trilogy. I'm really sad we won't be seeing it honestly. This was way, way better than the Planet of the Apes movies have been, and we're getting yet another one of those.

[Morris Schæffer]

Yeah, looks like they were saving that reveal for the third film in the proposed trilogy. I'm really sad we won't be seeing it honestly. This was way, way better than the Planet of the Apes movies have been, and we're getting yet another one of those.

Well, 400 million worldwide isn't bad so let's hope for the best. Or better still, you hope for the best.

[EvilShoe]

Well, 400 million worldwide isn't bad so let's hope for the best. Or better still, you hope for the best.

It's not looking good: http://www.slashfilm.com/terminator-...-indefinitely/

[Grouchy]

God, it's time to just let this franchise die. There are apparently no writers left who can do anything interesting with it.

Most of what's bad about this movie has already been mentioned by you guys, but I'd like to draw attention to the horrible casting. I love Emilia Clarke but she's clearly not even physically apt to play Sarah Connor. Jai Courtney needs to stop appearing in movies, he just sucks - this film unfortunately reminded me that he's cast as Captain Boomerang in Suicide Squad. Jason Clarke as John Connor is not nearly as bad, but... he just seems to be announcing with his face that he'll turn evil any second, and that's what eventually happens.

Please don't ever be back.

[EvilShoe]

This was horrible. This franchise just gets worse and worse. (I think, I'm not revisiting Salvation to find out).

Jai Courtney: go away. He's making me wish Sam Worthington was still a thing.

It's obvious this franchise has no clue what to do with John Connor. This whole thing was embarrassing. Revisiting the first movies is a horrible idea, if all you have is cuddly Terminator and fucking Jai Courtney.

[megladon8]

It's kind of astounding how awful this was.

Every single role in the film is miscast. It felt like a TV movie with a moderately high budget (but even so, it features some truly awful effects).

Never tense. Never fun. Attempts at humour are tone deaf.

This was painful.

[Skitch]

Bad, but not as bad as I was expecting! Rate it roughly same as 3 and 4. Just no good sequel since 2.