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    I'm surprised that Tarantino would nit-pick the inner logic of a supernatural movie like that. I'm not saying it can't be done, but I'd imagine he of all people would be much more into impressive craftmanship than screenplays without plot holes.

    That said, I don't think he's all that correct. The creature is just not clever at first because it's not given a chance to - the only thing the characters do for the better half of the film is run away from it. It's only when they start fighting back that it starts getting ideas. His beef with the movie theater scene is correct but it could also be that the guy just miscalculated the time he won by running from the thing and just doesn't expect to see it there.

    Ultimately, this is a ghost curse. It's not supposed to make as much pragmatic sense as, I dunno, a Xenomorph.

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    I used to talk about that a lot back at RT during the J-horror craze years, which I felt had a lot of disconnect with the American psyche that led to inferior remakes. There's an impulse for Americans in their urban legends and campfire stories to have them make sense in a somewhat linear fashion. There's a set up and there's a consequence. The teenagers making out in the car have to first listen to a radio broadcast of an escaped madman before they get killed by one, that kind of thing, so western horror stories tend to involve a lot of deconstruction. It's really different when the culture you grew up in, like mine, is inherently and widely superstitious and steeped in ritualistic tradition. The more you connect the dots in the mythology of the supernatural, the less scary it becomes.
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    Between the love for this and the Babadook, I'm beginning to believe that horror aficionados across the land have really, really low standards.

    It Follows is a complete nothing of a film (I did like the synth soundtrack and the anachronistic nature of the setting, so there's that). Does it respect it's own mythology? What fucking mythology? Absolutely nothing is developed in this film at all. It's a series of terribly boring set pieces and people walking or driving from one place to the next. There is very little tension, and now I know that horror is subjective, but I wasn't scared or spooked once. Just a complete and total flat-liner of a film. The script is so, so bad, the acting is amateurish, and the story/plot is undeveloped.

    The soundtrack deserves a better film.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Between the love for this and the Babadook, I'm beginning to believe that horror aficionados across the land have really, really low standards.
    Well, that'll show us, I guess.
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    Quote Quoting Peng (view post)
    Well, that'll show us, I guess.
    Read the quote in my sig and tell me who now has low standards.
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    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    No. It only proves how terrible the Marvel movies are.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Between the love for this and the Babadook, I'm beginning to believe that horror aficionados across the land have really, really low standards.
    We love you too, D.

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    Just raise your standards, dammit! You, we, deserve better!

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    Only after you change your subculture.
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    Which subculture am I part of?

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    Lobbed him a softball, didn't I?

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    The one where you and your people get mad for working full time jobs to pay rent.
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    I don't get the joke. I'm guessing it has something to do with being a socialist hipster or something?

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    Soooooo anyway...I enjoyed It Follows (leagues above The Babafoock) but it really needed a third act. I like open-ended as much as the next guy, but damn, it just ended...as though they didn't know how to close it out without being cliche so they just quit.

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    I'll just chip in that if anyone should raise their standards, it's people who keep going to Marvel movies.
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    That should go without saying, Spinal.

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    I'll just chip in that if anyone should raise their standards, it's people who keep going to Marvel movies.
    I do it second-run, for three dollars or less, wearing a trenchcoat. But don't you tell me Paul Rudd isn't charming. Don't you lie to me. Look at that face and tell me he isn't charming.

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    And this was an eerie good time. Appreciable callbacks to classics like "Halloween" and "Cat People," effective if somewhat familiar camerawork. Character work was slight, but the lead and Nerdboy were effectively defined by their actions. I don't know if the logic was all that slippery, but if it takes some slippery logic to get some of these images and suspense sequences, I accept. I took it all as people making their best guesses and mostly being right. Also, I appreciated the quick way they cut off the Ubiquitous Second-Act Fact Finding Mission with the one night stand.

    One element on my mind is the way the characters are a little subdued given the circumstance, but I think the film is consciously trying to evoke some of that dream feeling where you're running in place and things are slowing down. The entire film feels like it's one remove from the pace of life (or at least movie life).

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    It Follows (David Robert Mitchell)

    It Follows

    Director: David Robert Mitchell

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    We definitely have a thread for this already
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
    Quote Quoting TGM (view post)
    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    We definitely have a thread for this already
    aha, did imdb switch the date?

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    Quote Quoting Yxklyx (view post)
    aha, did imdb switch the date?
    Well it was at Cannes almost a full year before it got formally released, so the copyrighted date in the credits is definitely when it was completed, and IMDb dates tend to go by the year something was first exhibited.
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