Fridge Logic: Why INCEPTION is Nonsense

[max314]

According to THIS GUY:

[Dukefrukem]

We have an Inception thread.

And you can break down almost ever movie ever made like this guy does.

But everything he said is correct and it makes me question why I have this as my all time favorite movie ever.

[Skitch]

Maaaaaan that was nitpicky. Stopped at 6 min.

[max314]

We have an Inception thread.

My bad

...everything he said is correct and it makes me question why I have this as my all time favorite movie ever.

In its defense, it's still a fun movie.

And it takes serious talent to smear your audience's face with bullshit whilst convincing them that they're the morons for not getting it.

Maaaaaan that was nitpicky. Stopped at 6 min.

Bite your lip and watch the whole thing.

The nits turn into big, bad bugs by the end of it – the premise of the entire film collapses.

Pun only partially intended.

[Skitch]

I'm sure you're probably right, but its a science fiction movie about dreamworlds. I'm a sci-fi dork. I don't need ultra logic and reason. This style of criticism could be applied to any film, but especially any sci-fi. He's not wrong, but hes just being the Fun Police.

[max314]

I don't need ultra logic and reason. This style of criticism could be applied to any film, but especially any sci-fi.

Ordinarily, I'd agree with you.

But Inception completely disregards its own rules.

Nolan covers these flaws as he always covers his flaws – relentless narrative momentum, nearly wall-to-wall music, and frenetic cross-cutting.

[Dead & Messed Up]

And it takes serious talent to smear your audience's face with bullshit whilst convincing them that they're the morons for not getting it.

This line was funnier on RT when you added the phrase "metric ton."

[max314]

Poor Dukefrukem said it was his favourite film.

Didn't have the heart to add extra torque to the blow.

[Dukefrukem]

Poor Dukefrukem said it was his favourite film.

Didn't have the heart to add extra torque to the blow.

It's the only film I've ever given a perfect score after all these years.

[max314]

Now I feel like shit.

Y'know what, Duke? Fuck that video guy. Inception is amazing.

I've seen that film a bunch of times. There's a paperback of the shooting script on my table right now that I was just using as a reference for my own work. The film's examination and celebration of how stories (because that's what Inception's dreams are: they're stories) have the capacity to change us on a fundamental level, by creating alternate realities in which we experience an emotional catharsis, is a declaration that stories – be they books, films, paintings, or the spoken word – are more than just an engine for industry. They are the engine of our humanity.

'Nuff said.

[D_Davis]

It's the only film I've ever given a perfect score after all these years.

Really?

Many, I can think of a dozen films more perfect.

[Spinal]

It's no Jupiter Ascending, but I still like it.

[The Bad Guy]

This far into it and so many people are still missing the key point - Inception is a movie about dreams.

The film mostly works as a plot the first time around, assuming you accept all the exposition as gospel and treat it as a straightforward narrative. That's kind of the experience of being in a dream - some mysterious stuff happens along the way but you're told to accept it, so you do. Once the film / dream ends, it then becomes obvious that some things are not what they seemed to be or didn't make a lot of sense in the first place.

Inception creates a world in which it gives you puzzle pieces and leads you along, but you don't actually have enough puzzle pieces to complete the set. It exists in a world with enough possibility and enough oddity that it can give birth to a lot of conspiracy theories and divergent views. That's a strength and not a weakness in my view.

[Spun Lepton]

I'm about 5:30 into this and so far complaints have been about character motivation. "If he's _______, why wouldn't he just ___________?" I get really tired of these kinds of complaints, because the author supposes they know more about human nature than the film maker. That's the joke.

But, I'll try to hear him out.

[Spun Lepton]

7:20 and now it's down to nitpicks. "Hey, look at the maze she made, look at it. LOOK!"

[Spun Lepton]

Author gets his undies in a bunch because one character rounds up to 10 years. "IT'S NINE YEARS! I DID MATH!"

[Spun Lepton]

Finished the video. His complaints about the "kick" are completely valid. I remember being a confused about the mechanics, as if it hadn't been very well mapped out. His character motivation complaints are self-indulgent, though.

[Ivan Drago]

I refuse to watch this video.

If there's one thing I can't stand, it's nitpicking just to 'prove' a movie is terrible.

[Mysterious Dude]

I heard this phrase at least twice:

"...which may make sense from a filmmaking standpoint, but is totally unnecessary in the world of the movie."

Okay, but if it makes sense from a filmmaking standpoint, then it's a valid filmmaking choice, isn't it?

One of the recent "Every Frame a Painting" videos starts with a criticism of The Imitation Game and The Theory of Everything, but instead of dwelling on how dull those films are, it goes on to show how interesting a scene from The Bad Sleep Well is. I really like that. I think the RedLetterMedia reviews of the Star Wars prequels, too, say more than just, "This is terrible." They also say, "This could be better."

This video is basically "Everything Wrong with Inception," except it's five times as long.