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    What ratio should be used to determine a successful movie then? 3:1 4:1? If it's not a hard number like $100 million then what do we use to gauge success.
    The old rule of thumb suggested 3 times the production budget.

    But the reality is that every territory is different and every film is a negotiation. The studios get their biggest cut from the U.S. box office (around 85 or 90%). Everywhere else, it depends on the deal.

    On bigger movies, producers take their fees up front and stars will have points, too, that the studio has to pay out before they profit.

    This video lays out how distribution works in China, where the take is often smaller. Sometimes the U.S studio might walk away with only 25% --- or worse, sell the film for a flat fee. (But the entertainment press and sites like Box Office Mojo will never tell you that.)

    Is Endgame successful?
    I heard that Disney spent $250 million just on advertising for that picture, which means its real cost was probably around $500-550 million.

    So it's hard to say if it was a "success" --- unless you view it as loss leaders for toy sales.

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    Didn’t Jack Nicholson’s Joker role pioneer (or at least popularize) that type of deal, where the actor takes a % of profit rather than an upfront salary?

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    Endgame had a budget of $356 million, lol. Insane. Figure double the cost for advertising/press, so maybe around $700 million?

    Still made $2.6 billion all said and done, so... Spend money to make money.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Endgame had a budget of $356 million, lol. Insane. Figure double the cost for advertising/press, so maybe around $700 million?

    Still made $2.6 billion all said and done, so... Spend money to make money.
    Yeh but of that $356 how much of that was from also filming Infinity War back to back?

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    Didn’t Jack Nicholson’s Joker role pioneer (or at least popularize) that type of deal, where the actor takes a % of profit rather than an upfront salary?
    His deal received a lot of press at the time (he made something like $60 million off "Batman," and that's in 1989 money).

    I'm not exactly sure when it started, but I do know Alec Guiness got points as part of his agreement to appear in "Star Wars."

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Yeh but of that $356 how much of that was from also filming Infinity War back to back?
    Since B.O.M. doesn't list A:I.W. budget, I would probably say you're right and thats the combined production budget of both. Still seems a bit low, but they'll never open books for us to truly know the answers to these questions.

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    If the total was $356, that would put each individual film's production cost in the ballpark of "Iron Man" and "Captain America."

    But "Infinity War" is ~6 hours long and visually complex, with oodles more CGI. No way that budget is for both.

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    Yeah, you're not wrong, but those boys from Cleveland know how to stretch a dollar!

    What would you estimate budget was?

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    Probably $500 mil for both (not including marketing)

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