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    Eh, to be fair she's speaking extemporaneously at a fan event / press line / red carpet. Of course she's gonna spew some bullshit.
    Feige gets the exact same treatment and his bullshit just sounds like he's holding so much back.
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    Feige gets the exact same treatment and his bullshit just sounds like he's holding so much back.
    Eh, not really?

    Marvel's always had the benefit of an obvious structure (individual character films, team film, more individual character films, another team film, etc). So Feige always has something to talk about to anyone who will give him air time and column inches.

    Meanwhile, Kennedy sounds like a CEO who has been caught in front of a mic when they have no new products to announce.

    I was thinking about this recently and "Star Wars" has some weird challenges. Everyone involved with these projects has to know how shallow this universe is. But at the same time, for the franchise to survive that universe must grow.

    What would you do differently?

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    Eh, not really?

    Marvel's always had the benefit of an obvious structure (individual character films, team film, more individual character films, another team film, etc). So Feige always has something to talk about to anyone who will give him air time and column inches.

    Meanwhile, Kennedy sounds like a CEO who has been caught in front of a mic when they have no new products to announce.

    I was thinking about this recently and "Star Wars" has some weird challenges. Everyone involved with these projects has to know how shallow this universe is. But at the same time, for the franchise to survive that universe must grow.

    What would you do differently?
    Well for starters I wouldn't create a new Empire, a new Emperor, a new Death Star and a new Darth Vadar. At the very least, if I wanted to go down this route, I wouldn't just snap a finger and make these things exist. I would build them. I would likely take elements from Rian Johnson's film with the casino planet; and tell a story around the corporations and people that make money by selling weapons to the Empire and the Rebels. The threat would be about a Sith Apprentice (maybe someone already pre-established) building a following after the death of Vadar, but he would be the lead of the trilogy; Not a Jedi. The movie would have encounters with retired Rebels, thinking the Dark Side had been defeated. The conflict would be the realization that the Sith has been moving towards the Dark, and instead turned Light (something we haven't seen before). But because he had once been Dark, there would constantly be enticed to go back to the dark.

    Something like that.
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    Meanwhile, Kennedy sounds like a CEO who has been caught in front of a mic when they have no new products to announce.
    Isn't that what we're saying, though? I'm not talking about the quality of the actual films, just her inability do display confidence on the saga he's producing.

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    I was thinking about this recently and "Star Wars" has some weird challenges. Everyone involved with these projects has to know how shallow this universe is. But at the same time, for the franchise to survive that universe must grow.

    What would you do differently?
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    I can't speak for TGM (who has an Ewok avatar) but I wasn't criticizing Star Wars. I love the universe. I'm just saying that any story you can tell in it will have to be space opera / western. Instead, a Marvel film could be a space opera / western (Guardians of the Galaxy), a spy film (Captain America), a supernatural adventure (Doctor Strange), a dark revenge thriller (The Punisher), etc. Marvel doesn't even use this diversity to its full potential in my opinion.

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    Well for starters I wouldn't create a new Empire, a new Emperor, a new Death Star and a new Darth Vadar. At the very least, if I wanted to go down this route, I wouldn't just snap a finger and make these things exist. I would build them. I would likely take elements from Rian Johnson's film with the casino planet; and tell a story around the corporations and people that make money by selling weapons to the Empire and the Rebels. The threat would be about a Sith Apprentice (maybe someone already pre-established) building a following after the death of Vadar, but he would be the lead of the trilogy; Not a Jedi. The movie would have encounters with retired Rebels, thinking the Dark Side had been defeated. The conflict would be the realization that the Sith has been moving towards the Dark, and instead turned Light (something we haven't seen before). But because he had once been Dark, there would constantly be enticed to go back to the dark.

    Something like that.
    This is so much better than what we're getting it hurts.

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    Well for starters I wouldn't create a new Empire, a new Emperor, a new Death Star and a new Darth Vadar. At the very least, if I wanted to go down this route, I wouldn't just snap a finger and make these things exist. I would build them. I would likely take elements from Rian Johnson's film with the casino planet; and tell a story around the corporations and people that make money by selling weapons to the Empire and the Rebels. The threat would be about a Sith Apprentice (maybe someone already pre-established) building a following after the death of Vadar, but he would be the lead of the trilogy; Not a Jedi. The movie would have encounters with retired Rebels, thinking the Dark Side had been defeated. The conflict would be the realization that the Sith has been moving towards the Dark, and instead turned Light (something we haven't seen before). But because he had once been Dark, there would constantly be enticed to go back to the dark.

    Something like that.
    This is a genuinely cool idea.

    So the lead is a former Sith Apprentice who's a secret light-sider? Do I have that right?

    What's his/her end goal? Why are they building a following?

    What happens next in the story?! Don't leave us hanging, dude!

    (Agree with Grouchy. This sounds a helluva lot more fun than the current trilogy.)

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    This is a genuinely cool idea.

    So the lead is a former Sith Apprentice who's a secret light-sider? Do I have that right?

    What's his/her end goal? Why are they building a following?

    What happens next in the story?! Don't leave us hanging, dude!

    (Agree with Grouchy. This sounds a helluva lot more fun than the current trilogy.)
    A former Sith Apprentice that did not get the full training complete under Vadar. Someone who had a damaged past, but by witnessing a lot of death and trauma but he or she actually had a happy childhood.

    He or she got turned later in their youth, by being in the wrong place at the wrong time during the final hours of Return of the Jedi. Maybe there's an entire advanced civilization on the other side of Endor, the size of NYC, concerned that the Empire was using Endor to shield itself during the rebuild. They heard of the pending attack and are trying to evacuate in case the Death Star crashed into the moon killing everyone. (or maybe they are just on a nearby planet in fear of the death star becoming fully operational again) During the evacuation, stormtroopers invade because they have been ordered to recruit more stormtroopers since most of them were killed in the first death star explosion, and our lead is pulled away from friends and family on the way to the death star, where he demonstrates some kind of force sensitive power, which Vadar can sense.

    Vadar was training him to be his replacement, so he was just rebuilding because that's all he ever knew. It's more akin to the Last Samauri, Avatar or Dances with Wolves.
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    Wow, that's a great setup. What happens next?

    Are the ex-rebels New Republic dudes the bad guys then?

    How would you incorporate the cast from the OT, since they are fan favorites and need to be at least visible?

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    I'm such a damn dork for Star Wars I don't know if there a premise I wouldn't eat up.

    Keep going.

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    If I took TV's approach, I would do a "Tales of..." like the books from the 90's.

    I think The Mandalorian, even if it isn't Boba Fett is a great idea for the TV show.

    Ditto the scraped Boba Fett movie... But what're you gonna do.

    Marvel hasn't had two big misses in a row. Heck, even the closest "low" they got was... Thor 2? Nobody really hated on it though. Solo was basically force-fed and while The Last Jedi has its fans, I think it's safer to say that it was closer to a Solo-miss than a Rogue One type. I'm still surprised that Rian Johnson is apparently putting something together.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Wow, that's a great setup. What happens next?

    Are the ex-rebels New Republic dudes the bad guys then?

    How would you incorporate the cast from the OT, since they are fan favorites and need to be at least visible?
    The fist movie won't have any Lords or Siths and the motivation of the main character (from the audience perspective) would be completely solo. But I also like the idea of some kind of dark force secretly motivation him. Maybe Vadar's ghost. Giving him glimpses of a fragmented future.

    I dont think I would write any of the OT characters in the new trilogy. If anything in the third movie, and our character has gone from dark to light (first two movies he would be mainly dark), he finally meets Luke, who is running a real Jedi Academy built from the ground up. Ghosts Yoda, Qui-gon, Windu, and Obi-Wan are all residences at the Academy, which is hidden in a temple on a new planet, guarded by Ion cannons.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    The fist movie won't have any Lords or Siths and the motivation of the main character (from the audience perspective) would be completely solo. But I also like the idea of some kind of dark force secretly motivation him. Maybe Vadar's ghost. Giving him glimpses of a fragmented future.

    I dont think I would write any of the OT characters in the new trilogy. If anything in the third movie, and our character has gone from dark to light (first two movies he would be mainly dark), he finally meets Luke, who is running a real Jedi Academy built from the ground up. Ghosts Yoda, Qui-gon, Windu, and Obi-Wan are all residences at the Academy, which is hidden in a temple on a new planet, guarded by Ion cannons.
    Oh man that's fucking coooooool. Are you familiar with the extended universe? This sounds like it'd fit into the sort of stories they were telling years ago in comics and novels.

    Also, now I'm kinda bummed? I'd much rather watch your trilogy than "Rise of the Skywalker."

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    Hehe I appreciate the praise around my improvisational script. I've never read any extended universe stuff. Only cannon stuff and plot lines in the Dark Forces and Old Republic games. The Vadar apprentice stuff is also supposed to be cannon with Galen Marek aka "Starkiller" (which makes JJ's Starkiller Base even more lame since that nickname was already taken).

    I like the idea of making genre movies in the Star Wars universe. Rogue One being a heist movie. Would be really cool to see a horror themed planet movie, like Pitch Black. But would also be great to see a completely new direction in a trilogy instead of retreads.

    I read earlier today, and it made me hate Force Awakens even more. Apparently they pitched an idea for the Emperor to return in the Force Awakens with concept art of the Death Star in an ocean. On top of that, JJ just used old concept art from the original trilogy and wrote a story around that. Like the original lead of Star Wars was going to be female. And some pretty damning set stuff. I can't find the article anymore though.
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    KOTOR Movie in the works? It's a buzzfeed source.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article...ldqpgc#4ldqpgc
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    The writer they hired also worked on "Terminator: Genisys," "Altered Carbon," and "Alita: Battle Angel."

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    Is this in addition to Lindelof/Weiss and Rian? I'm skeptical.

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    The writer they hired also worked on "Terminator: Genisys," "Altered Carbon," and "Alita: Battle Angel."

    :/
    Haven't seen Alita yet but yikes.
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    More Rumors- The Obi Wan movie will launch on Disney's streaming service.
    https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...disney-1201364
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    Confirmed will launch next year.
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    Fan art?

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    Real (just saw the tweet).

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    Horrible.

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    I am most depressed about the new Star Wars and Marvel news lately.
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