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    I see what you did there. You continued to be a dick to make a point without actually making any point whatsoever (y'know, since Mara was just being silly and you were an ass). Good job.

    Anyway, second episode continued the path of the first. Good show. I won't pretend to be above ranking this episode above the first thanks to Alexandra Daddario's surprising scene. There are advantages to HBO's desire to make every series earn its MA rating.
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    Quote Quoting Raiders (view post)
    I see what you did there. You continued to be a dick to make a point without actually making any point whatsoever (y'know, since Mara was just being silly and you were an ass). Good job.
    The fact that you've said anything about this at all makes you a massive hypocrite.

    To remain on topic: I enjoyed the hell out of the second episode, but recently Jessica Valentin said this: "So far the female characters on True Detective are murder victims, prostitutes, nagging wives, hot mistresses or sassy secretaries."

    She's right, and looking back on it, it bugs me.

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    Man I can listen to McConaughey monologue all day. Great 3rd ep. I love how the serial killer investigation keeps getting less screen time with each episode.

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    All caught up. Some of the monologue stuff is going above my head, but I'm completely involved in this. I thought I'd catch up on Game of Thrones first, but I'm struggling through the second season, and this is way down my alley.

    What a great way to end that third episode, with the question that Harrelson brings up, on top of that final image.... Damn.

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    How long until a top-notch director goes to do something like this? Soderbergh has already said he'll never do a feature-length movie again, just HBO (or something along those lines). Fukunaga is basically displaying Fincher-like aptitude here.

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    I enjoyed parts of the third episode.

    Thought the religion-tent monologue was a little too facile, though, compared to the other things Rust has said.

    The dialogue still pops, the characters strong, the interactions enjoyable but it felt like they were spinning their wheels a bit. Like he show is starting to eat itself. I wonder if hey have enough story for 8 episodes.

    Otoh. Worst part is we gotta wait 2 weeks for this to come back. Goddamn Super Bowl.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    How long until a top-notch director goes to do something like this? Soderbergh has already said he'll never do a feature-length movie again, just HBO (or something along those lines). Fukunaga is basically displaying Fincher-like aptitude here.
    Jane Campion. Top of the Lake.
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    Really great stuff. Strong episode for Harrelson this week.

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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    Jane Campion. Top of the Lake.
    Good call. I've watched the first episode and forgot about it. Not the show's fault, I've been meaning to get back to it.

    Mildred Pierce by Todd Haynes could probably be considered as well.

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    Caught up. I wasn't expecting this show to rely so heavily on religion-- or, maybe more accurately, warring personal philosophies and individual hypocrisies.

    Marty is not a stable person.

    IMO Top of the Lake is unmissable-- a fantastic, elegiac piece that stretches the medium.

    Boy howdy, did I not like Mildred Pierce, though.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Was a bit down on this episode (too much Marty marriage drama) but then Rust put on the jacket and it kicked in, and then...

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    The production values of this show are going to ruin all other shows for me.

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    Here's how they did it.
    "We eventually managed to find them near Biskupin, where demonstrations of prehistoric farming are organized. These oxen couldn't be transported to anywhere else, so we had to built the entire studio around them. A scene that lasted twenty-something seconds took us a year and a half to prepare."

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    Quote Quoting Mara (view post)
    Boy howdy, did I not like Mildred Pierce, though.
    It goes from impressive o completely unbearable really fast that one.

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    Then there's me who considers Mildred Pierce among the best TV/film creations of the past few years.

    This show here is one that could be maybe more effective as a shorter miniseries or even single film. Gorgeously created, but not sure the narrative has really held up. The characters are great though and I could see it building up and paying off splendidly.
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    Okay, okay, that shot, yes, awesome. But that aside, I'm loving just how many different flavors this show is giving us. It started like it was going to be a David Fincher style creepy procedural, then it got weird and philosophical in the second episode, then a straight-faced domestic drama in the third episode, and now we got a whopper of a suspense-thriller episode. Fuck, this show is fun.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Holy moly. That was great.

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    Shoot, I was hooked on the edge of my sheet the second they left the hospital. I want to watch it again.

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    Pretty incredible.

    I don't mean to be the bearer of negativity, but I noticed some people on a different forum discussing the dubious way that Marty immediately made it just on time to the location that Rust provided. I'll quote an example of this criticism that someone wrote up (it's the last bullet point I'm talking about, as I don't think the other aspects he discusses are genuinely problematic):

    - The guy did at least 5 lines of coke
    - Agreed to take a bunch of white bikers dressed up as cops to rob a black projects
    - He gets apprehended by two black guys and disarms both of them, one with a bat - then is able to apprehend and basically escort/carry a biker through 1 house, 2 blocks, and over a fence
    - Had the wherewithal to scope out the numbered addresses of a neighborhood he had never been to at night, called his partner to be at a location that he did not know will be safe in 90s when he could have been anywhere - and both of them triangulated perfectly to the perfect location at the exact same time
    I'm curious to see if anyone can argue against this. The finale of the episode is a fairly remarkable piece of virtuoso filmmaking, to be sure, but does it culminate in a bit of narrative contrivance?

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    Rust did know the location. They had that discussion at Ginger's house. They asked him if he knows where the projects they're talking about is. And they did not triangulate the exact location to meet. Rust gave Marty the address of the house he had to abandon because Ginger ran out. He then took Ginger to the main road outside the housing complex, where Marty passed. That he arrived just in the nick of time is a coincidence, but them finding each other isn't a stretch at all.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    Yeah, it still seems a little convenient that Marty was able to make it to the projects so quickly, given that he had no idea where Rust was going to be before that phone call. I suppose we have to assume that Marty didn't stray too far from the biker bar when he drove off and that the projects also happened to be relatively close to the bar.

    The fact that Rust had to improvise and ended up meeting up with Marty at an area other than their proposed meeting spot (and right on time, no less) still seems a bit too tidy.

    This ultimately isn't a terribly big deal, though, especially given how enormously compelling and fascinating this show is. The finale is still among the most striking visual feats I've seen on television, and the fact that it is a genuine oner is pretty remarkable.

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    The killer's gotta be Lester Freamon.

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    "You're like the Michael Jordan of being a sonovabitch."

    Catching up.

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    That was... intense.

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    Quote Quoting Mara (view post)
    That was... intense.
    Easy... Easy.
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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