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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I'm curious how you came to those numbers?
    Average $10 a movie. I would say $20 is more likely.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Average $10 a movie. I would say $20 is more likely.
    I do have some movies I've paid 30$ for. Vast majority though...1$-5$. A lot of the VHS tapes I've gotten in the last few years have been 10cents each.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    A lot of the VHS tapes I've gotten in the last few years have been 10cents each.
    Please tell me the most you've paid for a VHS tape in the last few years. If it's $12 or more... respect.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I'm curious how you came to those numbers?
    Basic math.

    15,000 items at $5 apiece is $75,000.
    15,000 items at $10 apiece is $150,000.

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    I don't want to suddenly not have access to them because streaming service 95672 went under or lost licenses to a library of media.
    I understand the point. I'm just saying physical media isn't an absolute hedge against unavailability.

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    Quote Quoting Idioteque Stalker (view post)
    Please tell me the most you've paid for a VHS tape in the last few years. If it's $12 or more... respect.
    No maybe 2$. I hate paying collector prices. I've seen tapes go for hundreds though....and some in store priced north of 75$...

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Basic math.

    15,000 items at $5 apiece is $75,000.
    15,000 items at $10 apiece is $150,000.



    I understand the point. I'm just saying physical media isn't an absolute hedge against unavailability.
    More than I would have paid for your dumb ass.

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    And man, Sony totally ruined their own console launch.

    That alone is pushing me to the Next Box.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Basic math.
    I know how to do math. I was asking how you decided every piece of media costs 5 or 10 dollars. Was my question confusing?

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I know how to do math. I was asking how you decided every piece of media costs 5 or 10 dollars. Was my question confusing?
    It's an average. Min of $5, max of $10.

    A perfectly fine range of overall cost.

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    I would say its more than that, to be honest.

    A very large portion of my collection is Criterion, or OOP/non region 1 stuff.

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    I know how to do math. I was asking how you decided every piece of media costs 5 or 10 dollars. Was my question confusing?
    I suppose it's confusing to me how you grokked the math but failed the deductive reasoning.

    If Meg bought retail during DVD's heyday, he likely paid more than on average than I estimated. But otoh, over the last few years, he also would have been able to buy out whole video store collections for pennies on the dollar.

    I don't know how long he's been collecting, or where he got the DVDs, but $5 to $10, on average, at a minimum, seems a reasonable guess.

    Any way we look at this it's a sizable sum of money. The point was more about expressing shock. He's willing to dump a pile of cash on digital plastic, but eschews online options.

    To look at this another way: Even if he acquired every one of his DVDs for a buck, for this amount of money he could subscribe to every major streaming service for literally decades.

    Like ... I understand the impulse to collect, but there's a contradiction here I still don't get.

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    It never had anything to do with cost. My argument has never been about subscription costs (though now that there's 10,000,0000,000 services, it could be).

    It's about owning what I own.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    It never had anything to do with cost.
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    And that's what I'm saying. I get a ally obliterated every month by my cell phone company.

    There are so many subscriptions now (any streaming service you want, music, books, sports, video games) it's insane.

    I want to plag A game, see A movie, read A book, listen to AN album. You need to make crazy good money if you want to be able to experience all the media you want.
    This was like ... 5 days ago? Monday? You're citing cost as a major complaint against subscription services. (And cell phones, I guess?)

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    So.... Video games? How’s XCOM2 going, Irish?
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    This was like ... 5 days ago? Monday? You're citing cost as a major complaint against subscription services. (And cell phones, I guess?)
    Eh, I forgot that post. I don't have encyclopedic knowledge of everyone's posts for the purpose of arguing with them in the future sorry.

    The cost sucks, but my main gripe is that I dont want to lose access to my media because Quentin Tarantino signed an exclusivity deal with the new Nickelodeon / YouPorn subscription service.

    Also, the 8th wasn't 5 days ago. Nor was Monday. You don't know basic math?

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    So.... Video games? How’s XCOM2 going, Irish?
    My Sniper on a roof top, getting a bead on the Mech around the corner, when a Codex comes right out the door of the building across the street, plain as day, and just stands there, on the sidewalk, doing nothing. So my sniper turns slightly and ...

    Deadeye + Death From Above loooooooooooooool. Crit for 16 damage, Codex's whole body goes flying like a rag doll. Never saw it coming, the shit.

    (The tactics game still rules, but I think they wildly fucked up some skill trees, the entire "strategy" layer with the world map and the ship, blah blah blah, it's all garbage, not very X-Com like, and too convoluted. But even so, they couldn't ruin the turn by turn fun and the OVERWHELMING satisfaction of lucky shots and clutch moments in this game. I still hold my breath choppering into any mission.)

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    Sniper + Blue Screen rounds = Happy Dead Codex Fun Time.

    What’s really glorious is pulling off an overwatch or first turn kill on one of those ED209 fuckers.

    EDIT- I generally go for Lightning Hands instead of Dead Eye.
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    My favorite is missing a close range shotgun blast with a 99% chance of hitting, then losing your whole squad.

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    Quote Quoting Scar (view post)
    Sniper + Blue Screen rounds = Happy Dead Codex Fun Time.

    What’s really glorious is pulling off an overwatch or first turn kill on one of those ED209 fuckers.

    EDIT- I generally go for Lightning Hands instead of Dead Eye.
    I've heard good things about Lightning Hands and watched a YouTuber get a helluva lot of use out of that side of the tree, using LH + Venom rounds ... but otoh, that Mech? My sniper one-shot him, too, on the next turn. Didn't even need to reposition.

    (Besides which, I'm fundamentally opposed to pistol skills in this game. Like, I wanna complain to the X-Com quartermaster. "Buddy, I got a guy with a sniper rifle. I got another guy with a shotgun. This chick over here stuffed her pockets with grenades. Why the fuck are you giving out handguns? Have you seen the size of sectoids lately?")

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    It's about owning what I own.
    I always thought it was about your flaky internet connection.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    I always thought it was about your flaky internet connection.
    That's more for gaming.

    I can (barely) run streaming services.

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    They should do a Marvel-styled XCOM game. Even better if it was X-Men taking on the Brood, Sentinels, other villains.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    I suppose it's confusing to me how you grokked the math but failed the deductive reasoning.

    If Meg bought retail during DVD's heyday, he likely paid more than on average than I estimated. But otoh, over the last few years, he also would have been able to buy out whole video store collections for pennies on the dollar.

    I don't know how long he's been collecting, or where he got the DVDs, but $5 to $10, on average, at a minimum, seems a reasonable guess.

    Like ... I understand the impulse to collect, but there's a contradiction here I still don't get.
    I wasn't arguing/disagreeing with you. I didn't say you were way off base or wrong, I was just curious your personal thought process. I don't know megs collecting habits, its entirely possible he never stopped buying VHS and has been buying for nickels for the last 20 years. Those people do exist.

    As for your last line, for myself, sure I could spend same amount on streaming services, but if they ever just decide to stop existing, I've got nothing. Whereas if I collect, services can come and go and my collection (obviously outside of media age) remain. To be honest, I spend more on streaming now than physical...but because my buying has slowed down since streaming/married/kids. I used to have more disposable income for buying any old thing, but the older I get, the more I think "conceivably how many more times am I gonna watch this movie?" It has to be something I love for blu-ray, something cheap entertaining for dvd, and trash blind buys nostalgia for VHS.

    Edit: That wasnt the last line I meant. Hang on...fixed.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    They should do a Marvel-styled XCOM game. Even better if it was X-Men taking on the Brood, Sentinels, other villains.
    This is actually kinda brilliant. The mixture of close quarters fighters (Wolverine), ranged (Cyclops) and cool powers and effects (Storm) could make it really fun and well balanced.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    They should do a Marvel-styled XCOM game. Even better if it was X-Men taking on the Brood, Sentinels, other villains.
    Playing the sequel, I'm surprised 2K & Firaxis haven't milked the model for all it's worth. Used the same framework and released X-Com: 1942 or X-Com: Viet Nam or X-Com: Black-Ops Whatever.

    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    As for your last line, for myself, sure I could spend same amount on streaming services, but if they ever just decide to stop existing, I've got nothing. Whereas if I collect, services can come and go and my collection (obviously outside of media age) remain.
    So you're like a doomsday prepper, but only in terms of home entertainment?

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