Man. Frankenstein is an absolute CHORE.
Man. Frankenstein is an absolute CHORE.
There are people who adore it and get really hurt when I express feelings like this. But I agree completely.Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
...and the milk's in me.
Yeah. I can think of about a thousand better examples of the genre. Don't get this one's "classic" status beyond it simply being old. It's past time to retire some of these old standby's, and pick some newer books for required reading.Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
You know what book is even worse, although in a similar way? Tarzan of the Apes. At least it's not considered a classic, but I can't figure out how that silly, silly book ever grabbed the public attention and led to so many adaptations.
I will admit that Frankenstein is a pretty impressive achievement for an 18-year-old. But, still, classic? I just don't see it.
...and the milk's in me.
I think the of-the-moment nature of its politics are exactly what I disliked. I felt like characters were spouting op-eds from a few years ago at me. The daughter, especially. And I was left wondering what the point was while I was reading it. Because I was there. I read those op-eds. I'm not learning anything, and I'm not feeling anything because the storytelling is contrived. It's strongest quality is probably how these larger events filter down into our everyday lives. There are moments, like the opening, that you read and think, yes, I know that feeling.Quoting dreamdead (view post)
But again, to me, the politics are just one problem among many.
Wishful thinking, perhaps; but that is just another possible definition of the featherless biped.
ritch:Quoting Mara (view post)
I love Stange&Norrell too. Skitch has my copy since 2009, I don't know if he's ever read it ...
What? It's a great book. You guys are crazy.Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
Hey KF, what classes are you taking this semester? I ask because the Kafka and Conrad feel like a short story survey, whereas the other two seem like a Victorian British lit survey... in brief, what's the reading lists for you this semester?
In this third teaching of the "Experience of fiction" class, I'm using Cather's A Lost Lady, Fitzgerald's The Great Gatsby, Ibuse's Black Rain, DeLillo's Mao II, Schwartz's The Writing on the Wall, Foer's Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, Krauss's The History of Love, and Thompson's Blankets. The Krauss and Ibuse will be new reads for me...
The Boat People - 9
The Power of the Dog - 7.5
The King of Pigs - 7
The History of Love is really wonderful. A good choice given the theme of the class.
The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.
The Kafka was on my own before the semester began. I'm taking an English 313 course studying British and American literature from 1865 to present day. We read the Conrad and Shaw (as well as a bunch of poetry and essays from various authors), and just started James' The Portrait of a Lady. Other notable works we're reading are Light in August, Huck Finn, A Room of One's Own, The Waste Land, and The Crucible. I'm also taking 301 at the same time, in which we're reading Olyphant's The Library Window, Conrad's The Secret Agent, various Sherlock Holmes stories, and Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.Quoting dreamdead (view post)
On top of that, I have a history course in which we're reading Frankenstein (finished by this Thursday) and All Quiet on the Western Front.
No that's a good book.Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
Yes, yes it is.Quoting D_Davis (view post)
The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.
D'oh.Quoting Milky Joe (view post)
Should be Now that's a good book.
The first Luisa Rey mystery in Cloud Atlas....holy tits.
Now reading: The Master Switch by Tim Wu
yesss. this seems to be a divisive chapter but i love it.Quoting Benny Profane (view post)
I would like to hear the case for the other side of the divide.Quoting ledfloyd (view post)
Now reading: The Master Switch by Tim Wu
Me too.Quoting Benny Profane (view post)
My favorite chapters are in the second half -- and of those, my favorites are about Frobischer and Sonmi-451 -- but really, the whole thing is wonderful.
I'm slipping over here to post my thoughts on "The Library Window," since I don't want to derail the top ten thread.
Overall, a very interesting piece. I'm frustrated with the ending... from the "wave" until the conclusion, because it felt a little bit like it fell apart. I would respect a non-conclusion, but instead I felt like we were given a half-conclusion, which is annoying.
What the story did very well was the mounting obsession and monomania and paranoia. That was great-- and reminded me strongly of one of my favorite short stories from that period, "The Yellow Wallpaper" by Charlotte Perkins Gilman. In fact, there are strong similaries-- they both deal with Victorian women becoming obsessed after staring at a stationary object for too long. But while "The Yellow Wallpaper" really dove into issues of feminism and mental illness, I wasn't sure where "The Library Window" really wanted to go.
Still, very interesting.
...and the milk's in me.
Weird that a survey course claiming to go from 1865-present would not go beyond the mid-1950s. Frustrating to people like me who wholly believe in teaching truly contemporary literature, and like to regularly have 1-2 books from the 90s and 00s assigned. I've always been told that Light in August is Faulkner's best, so I hope you enjoy it. I really don't see you and James jiving well together, though.Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
140 pages into 1919, Dos Passos's second part of his U.S.A. trilogy. I like the liminal exploration of gender here, as we're moving away from the rigid hatred of women as property that was prevalent in The 42nd Parallel, and gay and lesbian desire is slowly being introduced as alternative pathways of gender. Very appreciable, as I have a soft spot for this kind of proletarian fiction.
Teaching Gatsby right now is simultaneously rewarding and frustrating--I fear that I could have used a far more atypical and unassigned book to explain and analyze the era (Dos Passos, West), but I feel happy that the students are seeing new ideas in a book that they've typically only read one way. I'm happy to move onto Ibuse's Black Rain next week, though, as that promises to be new terrain for both myself and the students.
The Boat People - 9
The Power of the Dog - 7.5
The King of Pigs - 7
Mara, I'll respond to this tomorrow night when I have a bit more time. I'm glad you enjoyed it, at least.Quoting Mara (view post)
Yeah, I was hoping for the same, though the last time that happened, The Kite Runner was one of those contemporary novels, and it ranks among the worst I've ever read. Still, I was hoping for at least one selection from the past 20 years.Quoting dreamdead (view post)
As for James, I'm really enjoying him thus far, about 144 pages through. His has great attention to detail, at times near to a fault, but the way he stretches out a metaphor is fascinating, and at times it's pretty mesmerizing.
EDIT: Oh, and I finished Frankenstein. What a frustrating novel. Filled with interesting allegories, but hampered by incredibly poor writing. I'll expound on that when I have more time tomorrow night as well.
Same here.Quoting dreamdead (view post)
Speaking of frustrating, I haven't been able to read that much lately, aside from what my job requires me to read, like piles of student papers. I've been having some issues with vertigo. Bah. I did manage to get through The Lost City of Z, but mostly via audio book.
Link to very rare Cormac McCarthy short story within. Wow, is all I can say.
http://biblioklept.org/2011/02/02/wa...thy/#more-7814
Now reading: The Master Switch by Tim Wu
Finished out Dos Passos's 1919, which ends with an appropriately bitter condemnation of the political uses of the Unknown Soldier from WW1. This text, after the earlier The 42nd Parallel in the USA trilogy, resonated stronger in my mind, as it more directly deals with counterarguments to the war and the way that profiteering and political lies ended up being how the lower class viewed the war. It will be some time before I finish out the trilogy, but I'm still finding the journey worthwhile--just need to get back to academic reading for my schoolwork.
As such, starting Ibuse's Black Rain next. I'm hoping the hype proves deserving.
The Boat People - 9
The Power of the Dog - 7.5
The King of Pigs - 7
Picked up Chandler's The Big Sleep on a whim and blazed through it. Not the deepest read or anything of '30s culture, but beneath the sexism and homophobia (do these qualities ease off throughout the Marlowe series?), there is a pretty solid and sustained interrogation of politics and wealth as weapons that mask the rich's true debauchery. Four or five moments where the prose was just perfect.
The Boat People - 9
The Power of the Dog - 7.5
The King of Pigs - 7