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    Well, Joker won the Golden Lion.

    First comic book movie to win any noteworthy major award?

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    Tracking over $100 mil opening weekend. Needs $132 to track Deadpool.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Tracking over $100 mil opening weekend. Needs $132 to track Deadpool.
    I'm not sure I understand the correlation?

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Tracking over $100 mil opening weekend. Needs $132 to track Deadpool.
    I don't think it'll beat the opening weekend, but it could. The Golden Lion win just added to the insane hype. The second most prestigious film festival award (after the Palme d'Or) just went to a comic book villain movie. I still think this will beat out Deadpool overall (and Passion of the Christ, which is #1 R-rated but was helped w/ all the Easter showings) since dollars to donuts this will have more legs esp. if it gets more awards hype.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Well, Joker won the Golden Lion.

    First comic book movie to win any noteworthy major award?
    I'm both ecstatic that they have one up on Disney while questioning what timeline we're in all at once.
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    Again - is it a comic book movie at all? Nothing in the trailer has anything to do with any comic I know, save for the Joker name and makeup, "Gotham" and "Arkham" names and... yeah, that's about it.

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    Is there even the slimmest chance that this is a lead-in to The Batman?

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    Quote Quoting [ETM] (view post)
    Again - is it a comic book movie at all? Nothing in the trailer has anything to do with any comic I know, save for the Joker name and makeup, "Gotham" and "Arkham" names and... yeah, that's about it.

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    Don't quite a number of comic book movies mostly just use the names, characters, and settings from the source material, but then create their own original story? Does that suddenly no longer make it a comic book movie? o.O

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Is there even the slimmest chance that this is a lead-in to The Batman?
    Pretty sure The Batman is intended to be in the DCEU, which this movie doesn't take place in. But who knows, WB's plans seem to change on an almost weekly basis at this point. *shrug*

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    European film awards don't mean shit in terms of box office. What matters is Warners' $50-100 million ad spend.

    For "Joker" to legit surpass "Passion of the Christ," it'll need to make ~$500 million. (And that was just the domestic take.)

    Mel's little godly grindhouse made it's money from the evangelicals who flocked to it --- that whole crowd bought out theaters again and again. They're the original superfan.

    DCU fans are nuts but they're not as crazy as religious fundamentalists (although sometimes, it's tough to tell the difference).

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    Petition to officially rename Passion of the Christ as “Mel’s Little Godly Grindhouse”.

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    "Todd Phillips says the film was 'never meant to connect' to any other DC films and he doesn’t see it connecting in the future. #JokerMovie #TIFF19"

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    "Todd Phillips says the film was 'never meant to connect' to any other DC films and he doesn’t see it connecting in the future. #JokerMovie #TIFF19"

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    I thought that was already stated.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    European film awards don't mean shit in terms of box office. What matters is Warners' $50-100 million ad spend.

    For "Joker" to legit surpass "Passion of the Christ," it'll need to make ~$500 million. (And that was just the domestic take.)

    Mel's little godly grindhouse made it's money from the evangelicals who flocked to it --- that whole crowd bought out theaters again and again. They're the original superfan.

    DCU fans are nuts but they're not as crazy as religious fundamentalists (although sometimes, it's tough to tell the difference).
    I don't know where you are getting this $500 million domestic take. B/O Mojo has it at $370M domestic. Which would be the number to beat for domestic R-rated.

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    Brick - 7
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    Inflation, dude.

    $370M in 2004 is the equivalent to ~$500M today.

    (And now Deadpool doesn't look so impressive, does he? )

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Inflation, dude.

    $370M in 2004 is the equivalent to ~$500M today.

    (And now Deadpool doesn't look so impressive, does he? )
    Well that's just a stupid metric to use. There's always inflation. Here's your Exorcist numbers in 2019. #1 R-rated w/ inflation.

    The Exorcist WB $996,498,500

    Here's your Gone With the Wind numbers in 2019. #1 of all time w/ inflation.

    Gone with the Wind MGM $1,822,598,200
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    Brick - 7
    War of the Worlds (2005) - 8

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    Well then those are still the most successful movies of all time, right? Not accounting for inflation is what's ridiculous.
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    Well that's just a stupid metric to use. There's always inflation.
    Yeah, that's the point. There's always inflation. Which is why it makes sense to account for it. The value of money changes over time and distance. 100 yen does not equal 100 dollars. 10 bucks in 1973 does not equal 10 bucks in 2019.

    How is that a stupid metric?

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    How is that a stupid metric?
    Because no one ever uses it for breaking records. If we are only going by ticket sales, no movie would have ever done better than a certain civil war epic from 1939.
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    Quote Quoting Pop Trash (view post)
    Because no one ever uses it for breaking records.
    You mean the trades don't. And the reason they don't is because box office tallies are about publicity; it doesn't serve the studios to hype an 80 year old film.

    But this is a casual conversation. We're not required to adopt marketing language. We can approach the subject with a little nuance. We can recognize that, yes, a dollar in 2019 is not the same as a dollar in 2004, and that saying otherwise creates and continues a false narrative around movies and what they mean to people.

    So the question I have now is: Why are you out here working for Warners Bros., and for free?

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    CAn't wait to find out who Nathan Fillion is. Also Pete Davidson.

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