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    In the belly of a whale Henry Gale's Avatar
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    Well people like Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg have had their names on tons of Marvel movies for years now. Writers build relationships with studios whether we see final films (or official writing credits) from them all the time, and the more knowledge they might have of a particular brand, the more likely they'll be offered or consulted about something new at some point (even to do uncredited rewrites, script doctoring). It just makes sense from a business standpoint to keep people in the fold instead of constantly cycling through new talent while severing ties with others.

    Marvel Studios has so many movies in production at any given time, they almost have no choice but to not micromanage and just trust that every new directing/writing team they bring in can deliver (and they've lucked out pretty damn well so far). DC only seems to be really focusing on one movie at a time, for better or worse, and they've decided the best bets of ingredients that work for them begin and end with Nolan, Snyder, and David S. Goyer.

    It also helps that Goyer also has his name on all three of Nolan's Batman films and is the sole credit on the first Man Of Steel. Even though I'm not a huge fan of him, I'm not sure why it would make any sense for anyone to wipe the slate clean by giving the boot to a writer that's been a part of a combined $3 Billion+ of the exact properties once again at hand here.

    Sure, he also helped write Ghost Rider 2, Jumper and The Unborn in that same time frame, but it's not like anyone remembers those enough to hold them against him.
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    Ghost Rider 2 > practically all other comicbook films

    It's true.

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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    Ghost Rider 2 > practically all other comicbook films

    It's true.
    No. That formula is mathematically incorrect.
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    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    Ghost Rider 2 > practically all other comicbook films

    It's true.

    I still need to see this one.

    The first was just so dreadful, I think its memory has kept me away despite the directorial team.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    I still need to see this one.

    The first was just so dreadful, I think its memory has kept me away despite the directorial team.
    The second one is even worse then the first. I'm warning you.
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    Nah its more fun. The first one is pretty terrible. So is the second, but at least its fun. And Cage at his most gonzo.

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    I lament that visual ingenuity and narrative depth have become things that people don't care about anymore.

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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    I lament that visual ingenuity and narrative depth have become things that people don't care about anymore.
    Both that Ghost Rider 2 has none of.
    Sure why not?

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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    Both that Ghost Rider 2 has none of.
    Artfully slung sentiment.

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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    Ghost Rider 2 > practically all other comicbook films

    It's true.
    It's not.
    Sure why not?

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (Rian Johnson) - 9
    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    Ghost Rider 2 > practically all other comicbook films

    It's true.
    it's true, it's DAMN true.
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    Ghost Rider 2 is basically bad in different, more fun ways than the first one.

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    If you want to go the Zack Snyder route, go with Gina Carano. All look, but a horrible actress.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    If you want to go the Zack Snyder route, go with Gina Carano. All look, but a horrible actress.
    Kinda fitting that her and Cavill dated for a while.

    I would definitely be fine with Brolin, especially in fitting that more rugged, aged description. A few more names floating around that I found intriguing are Richard Armitage (who seems to have a face made for the Batman mask's shape), Matthew Goode (who could definitely pull off the slightly creepy adversarial role similar to the nice job he did with Snyder in Watchmen), and Max Martini (who I've only really seen in Pacific Rim, but he seems much more of a wildcard because of his lack of recognition, which could be a direction they want just as much as a name actor).

    Though, another point towards Hamm I'd forgotten about: Him and Snyder did do Sucker Punch together. Jus' sayin'.
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    Safe (Haynes, 1995)
    South Park: Bigger, Longer & Uncut (Parker, 1999)
    Beastie Boys Story (Jonze, 2020)
    Bad Trip (Sakurai, 2020)
    What's Up Doc? (Bogdanovich, 1972)
    Diva (Beineix, 1981)
    Delicatessen (Caro/Jeunet, 1991)
    The Hunger (Scott, 1983)
    Pineapple Express (Green, 2008)
    Chungking Express (Wong, 1994)

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    Give it to Brolin.

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    So he really is just piggybacking off Nolan.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    So he really is just piggybacking off Nolan.
    Doesn't look anything like the Tumbler to me. This is long and low like a more classic Batmobile.
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    Ha you're right. I had to google it to see comparisons but I remember it looking like this for some reason. Funny how the brain works.
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    I'm loving the look of Batman.

    Just wish the movie would be good.


    EDIT: Also reading reports that his eyes are white.
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    As much of a trainwreck as it all would have been, I would like to see a Superman movie that weird.

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