Prometheus (Ridley Scott)

[Dead & Messed Up]

Are you talking about the snake attack scene that starts with the biologist trying to pet a hostile extra-terrestrial alien that looks like Satan's Death Cobra of Death?

Why doesn't the asshole just start poking at the goo inside meteors?

[Saya]

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The more I think about the movie, the less I like it..

[D_Davis]

Loved it.

[Pop Trash]

There's something about this that seemed like Scott just stopped giving that much of a shit after the one hour mark. It's not just the script, but also the acting gets progressively more shrill and some of the formal beauty goes out the window (or at least a bit...I still think Scott has an eye for composition that is certainly above mid-tier as far as big budget filmmakers go).

That tacked on ending seemed very test screeny to me. I'm thinking they got back notes that said "needs a better ending" which is in fact true, but instead of rewriting/reshooting the final third of the movie, the studio just stuck an [SPOILER] alien doing some alien shit in there.

[Rowland]

Are you talking about the snake attack scene that starts with the biologist trying to pet a hostile extra-terrestrial alien that looks like Satan's Death Cobra of Death?

Yep he is. Far from refreshing, that was one of the straight-up dopiest scenes in the movie.

[transmogrifier]

The abdominal surgery scene and snake attack in the catacombs scene were two of the most refreshing horror scenes I've seen in quite some time.

I agree with most about plot holes and failed logic, but I can definitely ignore it. This will be joining my collection for sure on Blu-ray.

I know opinions are subjective and all that, but I honestly cannot comprehend giving that absolutely ridiculous snake scene a pass, let alone thinking it one of the best scare scenes of recent times.

The biologist TRIES TO PET AN ALIEN LIFEFORM when it had previously established him as a coward. And this is after the movie has them leave the too jar place because they weren't keen on it, just to have them get conveniently lost (despite being in contact with the ship the whole time, which had their location AND A SCAN OF THE ENTIRE AREA) and then come back TO THE PLACE THEY WANTED TO AVOID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

[Pop Trash]

Oh it's dopey allright, but you do get a pretty sick Anaconda like megadeath outa that scene.

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Also, maybe I missed it, but what the hell was Guy Pearce's grandpa supposed to be doing the whole time on the ship before he randomly shows up? Was he in hypersleep? If so, no one noticed?

[Morris Schæffer]

Also, maybe I missed it, but what the hell was Guy Pearce's grandpa supposed to be doing the whole time on the ship before he randomly shows up? Was he in hypersleep? If so, no one noticed?

Well, Vickers knew and so did David. There was a scene halfway where they're all hush hush about someone. But it's likely the others didn't know. Why? Well, that's "intrigue" for ya.

edit: And may I just add that calling Pearce's weyland "Grandpa" is an insult to all the actual grandpa's in the world. Pearce was a monstrosity.

[Dukefrukem]

Are you talking about the snake attack scene that starts with the biologist trying to pet a hostile extra-terrestrial alien that looks like Satan's Death Cobra of Death?

Why doesn't the asshole just start poking at the goo inside meteors?

Yes that snake attack scene.

[Dukefrukem]

I know opinions are subjective and all that, but I honestly cannot comprehend giving that absolutely ridiculous snake scene a pass, let alone thinking it one of the best scare scenes of recent times.

The biologist TRIES TO PET AN ALIEN LIFEFORM when it had previously established him as a coward. And this is after the movie has them leave the too jar place because they weren't keen on it, just to have them get conveniently lost (despite being in contact with the ship the whole time, which had their location AND A SCAN OF THE ENTIRE AREA) and then come back TO THE PLACE THEY WANTED TO AVOID IN THE FIRST PLACE.

You've mistaken my post. I said it was a great horror scene. I didn't say the logic and continuity was perfect. That was the first question mark for me when I was watching. I thought, "OK that was weird, but I'm still in". Where it completely fell apart for me was when Weyland was woken up and everyone seemed to ignored Naomi falling to her knees with staples across her stomach. At that very moment, I knew the film had failed. I gave the movie 3 stars, there was a lot that worked, but unfortunately there was a lot that didn't.

[Dukefrukem]

Extended Cut confirmed. 20 additional minutes. I guess there is a longer cut of the fight between Dr. Shaw and the Engineer, but Scott is unsure if that will be in the cut or just a deleted scene. Scott also said the extra minutes will address a lot of the concerns people had with the movie.

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And may I just add that calling Pearce's weyland "Grandpa" is an insult to all the actual grandpa's in the world. Pearce was a monstrosity.

Pearce is a great actor, but I kept thinking he was the Grandpa from The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

[Morris Schæffer]

Extended Cut confirmed. 20 additional minutes. I guess there is a longer cut of the fight between Dr. Shaw and the Engineer, but Scott is unsure if that will be in the cut or just a deleted scene. Scott also said the extra minutes will address a lot of the concerns people had with the movie.

Why can't they release a 140 min cut theatrically then? This is an era in which the new Batman is said to clock in at 165 minutes. :frustrated:

[Dukefrukem]

Ask Fox. They didn't even want the abdominal surgery scene in the movie, which could possibly be my favorite horror scene ever. If they cut that out, the movie would have got a PG-13 rating.

[Pop Trash]

Ask Fox. They didn't even want the abdominal surgery scene in the movie, which could possibly be my favorite horror scene ever. If they cut that out, the movie would have got a PG-13 rating.

Fox is retarded. That's the best scene in the movie. People in my audience were audibly freaking out.

[Dukefrukem]

Fox is retarded. That's the best scene in the movie. People in my audience were audibly freaking out.

When the scene finally ended, I realized had squeezed my popcorn bag crushing the popcorn on the top and my legs were twisted in front of me. That scene was done so well. I tried to imagine myself using that machine if I were in that situation.... not sure I would make it in time.

[Ezee E]

Agreed. Fantastic scene there.

[Morris Schæffer]

Ask Fox. They didn't even want the abdominal surgery scene in the movie, which could possibly be my favorite horror scene ever. If they cut that out, the movie would have got a PG-13 rating.

Well, they've been burned before on this franchise, but they also meddled with alien 3 and they greenlit the astonishing alien vs. Predator franchise and opted for one of the greatest of all living directors to be at the helm. Ridley Scott must have been fucking pissed.

[Dukefrukem]

Well, they've been burned before on this franchise, but they also meddled with alien 3 and they greenlit the astonishing alien vs. Predator franchise and opted for one of the greatest of all living directors to be at the helm. Ridley Scott must have been fucking pissed.

What exactly were they burned on?

[Dukefrukem]

Oh and I'm not sure if this was posted in the original thread or not, but Scott wants to do a sequel if this was successful.

"If we're lucky, there'll be a second part. It does leave you with some nice open questions." Asked if a sequel would be a direct prequel to Alien, Lindelof said "if we’re fortunate enough to do a sequel... it will tangentialize even further away from the original Alien.

[Morris Schæffer]

When the scene finally ended, I realized had squeezed my popcorn bag crushing the popcorn on the top and my legs were twisted in front of me. That scene was done so well. I tried to imagine myself using that machine if I were in that situation.... not sure I would make it in time.

I wish it had that effect on me. I knew there was a scene that, according to Scott, rivalled the chestburster sequence from 1979. And I was also reasonably certain that I hadn't seen it yet. So my mind was primed for when that showstopper would come. And when it happened, it felt telegraphed, and the relative cleanness and ease with which the surgery was carried out, made me smile just a little bit.

I kept thinking "what a fucking awesome bit of equipment" rather than "oh my gosh poor lass".

That said, it is one of Prometheus more visceral scenes but nowhere near as messy, dramatic as what Happened to Hurt. But that's my fault according to The Rotten Tomatoes forum.

[Morris Schæffer]

What exactly were they burned on?

The debacles of alien 3 and resurrection, the critical pounding the A vs. P movied got, but perhaps they made enough money.

[Dukefrukem]

I wish it had that effect on me. I knew there was a scene that, according to Scott, rivalled the chestburster sequence from 1979. And I was also reasonably certain that I hadn't seen it yet. So my mind was primed for when that showstopper would come. And when it happened, it felt telegraphed, and the relative cleanness and ease with which the surgery was carried out, made me smile just a little bit.

I kept thinking "what a fucking awesome bit of equipment" rather than "oh my gosh poor lass".

That said, it is one of Prometheus more visceral scenes but nowhere near as messy, dramatic as what Happened to Hurt. But that's my fault according to The Rotten Tomatoes forum.

And this is exactly why I stop reading/watching interviews/videos before I go to a movie that I am already going to see.

[Morris Schæffer]

http://cavalorn.livejournal.com/584135.html

Been reading what this guy is saying. It's a long dissertation so I haven't finished yet, but it's an engaging read. There are points that will be already obvious to some, but the coherence with which it is written is illuminating. I never even spotted this mural in the movie: