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    I really, REALLY liked this. It was just a joy to watch. Both Dujardin and Bejo were wonderful (as was the dog, natch).

    I agree that its silence wasn't a gimmick, but can see why people would think that.

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    This film also had some of the best lighting work I've ever seen, and the only time I wasn't completely lost in it was when John Goodman showed up, because I was reminded that it was a modern film at that point.

    Still, just glorious and exquisite. It might be my new favorite of 2011.

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    yet this was the one time in the film i thought 'ooh, an original idea!' and got excited. but then it turned out to be nothing.

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    The cinematography was definitely influenced by Citizen Kane.

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    Quote Quoting ledfloyd (view post)
    yet this was the one time in the film i thought 'ooh, an original idea!' and got excited. but then it turned out to be nothing.
    Right. I really liked that scene too, but wondered why it couldn't just be "for real." I'm mean, we're obviously in a movie-movie world, so it wouldn't be too much of a stretch.
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    There are a lot of words that describe this film, and pretentious is not one of them, much to my relief. I loved every second of it.
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    In a world with the likes of Singing in the Rain and Sunset Boulevard, this film is really pointless to begin with. I understand that is unfair to expect any new movie to step up to those masterpieces, but it's just my way of saying that I found this very derivative, predictable and frankly boring.

    It's well made, and the actors are perfect for their roles - the girl is a stunner, and she's Argentinian - but it offered no surprises and it took way too long to get to its point while all the time I knew exactly what was going to happen.

    By the way, I agree with Kim Novak. Of course I recognized the music instantly since Vertigo is my favorite movie, and I was very annoyed that Bernard Herrman's name wasn't on the credits. You can pay for and use any famous film music you want, like Tarantino does with Morricone, but give credit where credit's due.

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    Its probably because I have never seen Singing In The Rain, or because I don't care that there have been far better silent movies than this one (I know because I have seen them) that I loved this movie a lot. Nah, that's not it: I liked it because I thought The Artist was well directed and acted, and I really enjoyed it. The Artist is similar to The Hurt Locker in that yes it cracks my Top 10 for a certain year and yet despite it not being my #1 I have no problem with it winning Best Picture even though more deserving movies have been nominated. Still I don't think that The Artist is as much a lock as people think.
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    Annoyingly, this just won the Indie Spirit BP award, which, unless there is some huge upset tomorrow, it will be the first time since Platoon that has happened.
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    I've seen very little silent movies (well, just one really) nor have I seen truckloads of black and white movies (more than one tho) so that for me The Artist felt unique, original, a staggering breath of fresh air in an era when none such movies are offered. I don't think it was pointless. I was swept away by the power of its timeless message. And the music is beautiful as well, and it's all Belgian!!! Well, the orchestra is.
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    People can poop on this all they want, but that dance scene was great. I love dance scenes that aren't all chopped to sushi like fuckin' Moulin Rouge.
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    I'm glad I ended up giving this a shot in the big screen. It was much better than I expected. It's a film more concerned with creating a strong emotional center with its charismatic leads than with being a homage to the silent period. It's admittedly pretty lacking in that regard, but as a light-hearted love story it's immensely satisfying. There's so much that's instantly memorable about it- George's (and the dog's) adorable mugging, the nightmare scene, a particularly clever use of an intertitle towards the end- and as pure filmmaking it's a treat, too. I would compare this with Casablanca as a work where all its individual elements are great and when put together, they form a movie that may not be particularly ground-breaking or ambitious, but is remarkably effective and moving.

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    Finally got around to this. I really really liked the first third when it was in light-hearted mode. That section was an uncanny reproduction of similar films from the silent era. When the downward spiral hits though I thought the movie dragged - not enough pathos and it all went on for too long. A similar film from the 20s would have been much darker and tighter. It also irked me a great deal that music from Vertigo was swiped for this - that left a bad taste.

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    'I want to make A Star is Born meets Sunset Boulevard meets Singing in the Rain except more cloying and with a dog... and maybe even throw in a dash of Pleasantville for good measure."

    Yeah, this was absolutely astoundingly terrible.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    'I want to make A Star is Born meets Sunset Boulevard meets Singing in the Rain except more cloying and with a dog... and maybe even throw in a dash of Pleasantville for good measure."

    Yeah, this was absolutely astoundingly terrible.
    You know I haven't seen any of those movies? Maybe that's why I liked The Artist so much. I'll let you know if I still like it after I watch all of those too.
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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)
    You know I haven't seen any of those movies? Maybe that's why I liked The Artist so much. I'll let you know if I still like it after I watch all of those too.
    I have seen all of those and I still loved The Artist.
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    It's hard for me to imagine someone who hasn't seen those films even bothering to check this out, since the whole thing coasts on nostalgia. Once you get past the fact that it's mostly silent, in black and white, and plunders from every AFI chestnut in sight, there's no story and an absolute dearth of fresh ideas. When the dog comes to the rescue at the end, we're supposed to be reminded of Lassie and think wistfully and condescendingly of a simpler time when popular entertainment (and people in general) were less sophisticated than they are today. Hazanavicius is a no-talent hack director, period.
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    I've seen very little silent movies (well, just one really) nor have I seen truckloads of black and white movies (more than one tho) so that for me The Artist felt unique, original, a staggering breath of fresh air in an era when none such movies are offered.
    You know, they have this wonderful new invention called a DVD player that allows you to see lots of silent movies. A few of my own favorites are Louis Feuillade's Les Vampires, D.W. Griffith's Intolerance, Victor Sjöström's The Phantom Carriage, Erich von Stroheim's Foolish Wives (is there a DVD of Greed available anywhere?), Buster Keaton's Sherlock, Jr., Fritz Lang's Metropolis, Josef von Sternberg's The Docks of New York, Carl Theodor Dreyer's La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc, Dziga Vertov's The Man With the Movie Camera, and Yasujiro Ozu's I Was Born, But... Incidentally, the fact that they're silent movies and in black and white is probably the least interesting thing about them.
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    Quote Quoting EyesWideOpen (view post)
    I have seen all of those and I still loved The Artist.
    I was just making that post so when I finally saw those movies and still liked The Artist I would have something to point to later on.
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    Also I've seen a small amount of silent movies. I fail to see how their existence renders The Artist pointless. Shit man all the movies have already been made-guess we don't need any new ones.
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    Also I've seen a small amount of silent movies. I fail to see how their existence renders The Artist pointless.
    It doesn't, but as I said earlier, the best silent movies have a lot more going for them than being silent and in black and white.

    Shit man all the movies have already been made-guess we don't need any new ones.
    Well, now that you mention it, there are more than enough old movies to keep me occupied for the rest of my life.
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    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    You know, they have this wonderful new invention called a DVD player that allows you to see lots of silent movies. A few of my own favorites are Louis Feuillade's Les Vampires, D.W. Griffith's Intolerance, Victor Sjöström's The Phantom Carriage, Erich von Stroheim's Foolish Wives (is there a DVD of Greed available anywhere?), Buster Keaton's Sherlock, Jr., Fritz Lang's Metropolis, Josef von Sternberg's The Docks of New York, Carl Theodor Dreyer's La Passion de Jeanne d'Arc, Dziga Vertov's The Man With the Movie Camera, and Yasujiro Ozu's I Was Born, But... Incidentally, the fact that they're silent movies and in black and white is probably the least interesting thing about them.
    . Hardly have the time nor the inclination to do so even if I'm sure there are bound to be some that I would like/love. Saw the general in the meantime. I liked it, a tour de force, especially back in the day. Sme of the shots are really quite something.
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