The Dark Souls Discussion Thread

[megladon8]

So yeah, I'm mighty stuck at the Bell Gargoyles.

Is it pretty much impossible to defeat them without summoning Sun Bro?

I read that they are both susceptible to lightning based attacks...but I don't have a weapon that does enough damage in the first place to warrant throwing some gold pine resin on it. I might as well just use the Drake Sword.

But man oh man...I just cannot beat these mofos.


How's about this - any tips for getting some humanity back? Any particular areas or enemies where humanity is fairly commonly found?

[Spun Lepton]

BAAHHH-HAHAHAHA!!

[Sycophant]

Humanity: kill rats. It's a rare drop, but a drop nonetheless. After a couple hours and several runs in the Depths, I picked up probably eight or ten humanities. I've gone farming for them a few times since then. I usually pick up about one per run.

Of course, when you're in the Depths, you gotta be wary of the curse frogs's fog. They're easy to beat, but the curse effect is instant death and a semi-permanent hindrance (half health) that can be costly to cure. Being human ups your curse resistance.

The Depths is a fairly easy area otherwise. Its boss isn't exactly a pushover, of course.

[D_Davis]

So this is where people talk about REAL video games, eh?

No babies aloud, amiright?

[D_Davis]

Meg, check this out:

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[D_Davis]

I don't think you can go to the depths before ringing the first bell.

[Sycophant]

I don't think you can go to the depths before ringing the first bell.

Oh, that's a good point.

Leaving messages might be a good strategy. Except nobody every rates messages in this game.

You could try getting yourself summoned to others' games for help on a boss, maybe even to help with the Gargoyles. I believe if it's successful, you're rewarded with Humanity.

[D_Davis]

You could try getting yourself summoned to others' games for help on a boss, maybe even to help with the Gargoyles. I believe if it's successful, you're rewarded with Humanity.

Yep - that's a good way to learn a boss, and get rewarded with a ton of souls and humanity.

Also, Meg, what shield are you using? Does it have 100% against physical? If not, buy the heat shield from the merchant - that should help a lot.

[megladon8]

Beat the Gargoyles on my own. Ended up just being very patient, strafing around them, waiting for them to attack so I could hit them in the back.

However, I didn't get the pick-up, even though I cut the first one's tail off. Apparently you're supposed to get something. Is this another case where I didn't get it because I didn't have humanity?

Oh well. Rang the first bell. Super cool. It's amazing that ringing a bell felt like such an achievement

So whereabouts are the Depths located?

I just tried to take on the Capra Demon but had my butt handed to me by his two pooches :sad:

[Sycophant]

Oh, yeah, the Depths are down a staircase near the Capra Demon. But you need to beat the Capra Demon to get access to it. Good luck!

[D_Davis]

Is this the first time in Match Cut history that a video game has had its own spin-off thread?

[megladon8]

I've given up trying to kill the Capra Demon for now.

I'm in the Darkroot Basin now, trying to defeat the Golum type creature inside the Watchtower Basement.

He's big and slow, but he takes a LOT of hits even with the Drake Sword, and if he hits you even once you're dead.

[D_Davis]

I've given up trying to kill the Capra Demon for now.

I'm in the Darkroot Basin now, trying to defeat the Golum type creature inside the Watchtower Basement.

He's big and slow, but he takes a LOT of hits even with the Drake Sword, and if he hits you even once you're dead.

My strategy for him:


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Fight him naked. He one hit kills, so no need to block. Just dodge, get behind, and back stab. Also, you have to dodge his big attack a bit later than you think, because he can re-direct it at the last moment.

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His drop is awesome, though, and it is a 100% drop.

[Thirdmango]

Is this the first time in Match Cut history that a video game has had its own spin-off thread?

It's the first time in history when about 3-4 members of match cut were all playing the same game at the same time. I probably would be playing it too but 60 bucks is way too much for a game at this point in my life. I'll see you guys in 2-3 years for this one.

[Dukefrukem]

This thread exists??

[D_Davis]

....too but 60 bucks is way too much for a game at this point in my life. I'll see you guys in 2-3 years for this one.

Usually is for me as well. Luckily, I had a stack of old stuff to trade in.

I still haven't gotten used to that $59.99 price point. Publishers should know that even at $49.99, I'd buy many more games. It's all psychological.

[D_Davis]

So Sen's Fortress ended up being rather easy. I think it's because I'm always reading about how hard things are, and I end up building it up in my mind. The boss here was ten times easier than the Capra Demon and the Gaping Dragon. Killed him solo, on my 3rd try. And two of the times I died because I fell off a ledge!

And wow...the reveal after this part is breathtaking. Absolutely one of the coolest moments I've experienced in a game.

[D_Davis]

Ano Londo might just be the most beautiful video game level of all time. My god...I want to live there.

[D_Davis]

I don't think I've ever played a game before that has made me feel actual emotion. It's very weird. That whole time in The Depths, and Blighttown, and in Darkroot Forest, you go for hours without seeing the sun, and it gets very depressing in a way. And now, this new area is completely different, and it actually feels somewhat hopeful.

It's pretty amazing how the game accomplishes these shifts through subtle use of dark and light.

[D_Davis]

Looks like the second printing of the strategy guide is hitting the shelves soon.

[D_Davis]

I went to Gamestop on my lunch break to pick up the strategy guide, and ended up talking with the clerks there for like 30 minutes about how awesome the game is.

The book is amazing, with tons of useful information about items, upgrades, and enemies. Really well made.

[D_Davis]

Anor Londo is a very, very cool, fun, and challenging area. The bosses totally destroyed me, but I think they are completely doable. Also, I got invaded right before the boss fight, by some player in the ninja armor and a katana. He completely destroyed me. My hits weren't even scratching him. Ugh.

Also, the strategy guide is amazing. Tons of useful information, and it does a good job of not spoiling too much. The item list and stat lists are totally worth it. Highly recommended.

[Sycophant]

Bosses, Davis? Good lord.

Started a second character, a sorcerer. Playing the game a bit differently. Moving a shit of a lot faster.

[D_Davis]

Bosses, Davis? Good lord.

Yeah. Plural, at the same time.

I want to play a magic user at some point. It is amazing how much faster you move once you know about things, isn't it? I started a Pyromancer and wanted to see how far I could get without dying once. I made it all the way to the Undead Parish, and it took about 30 minutes. My first time it took me about 8 hours! Heh...

[megladon8]

Last night I transferred the data from my 20 gig harddrive to the 250 gig in Jen's new 360 S.

I swear if I lost my progress in this game I may never play it again.