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    In the belly of a whale Henry Gale's Avatar
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    Alright, after a couple of weeks where I was started to worry about the direction of the show (I thought "Crossfire" particularly felt like an episode from an entirely different, dramatically weaker show), this brought me back to remembering why I loved it in the first place.

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    yeah. i felt sooo helpless during that final scene. wow.
    Putting us in the same position as Carrie by not knowing who it actually was at the door displays how good the show can be with making a small twist so effective and uniquely terrifying without delving into the sensational (like, say, the explosion last week). And then yeah, the final shot was both impossible to bear and beautiful to watch.
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    Minding the Gap (Liu, 2018) - **** / 9.0
    Green Book (Farrelly, 2018) - **½ / 5.8
    Mandy (Cosmatos, 2018) - **** / 8.9
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (Mitchell, 2019) - *** / 7.7
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    Bohemian Rhapsody ("Singer", 2018) - ** / 4.1
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    Vice (McKay, 2018) - **½ / 5.6
    The Favourite (Lanthimos, 2018) - **** / 9.3

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    As I write this I'm in the middle of episode 5, I first started watching this tonight. It has the need to watch it element of 24 but I often have weird concerns as the show progresses. Maybe it's because I'm from Provo but the strange pot shot at BYU was a bit confusing, it seemed like someone on the writing team really doesn't like Mormons maybe? "Here's our next naked harem girl, she's a recent grad of BYU the college listed at the top the most times on the least partying schools in America." Or perhaps they're just going along with their entire theme of everyone has the capabilities, even the most "righteous".

    Also I had no idea that was Inara from Firefly, and I realized I never realized she was Inara during V's run either.

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    It was my impression, given the reading of the line, that they were trying to make her from the most unexpected place possible. I'll admit I kind of laughed.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    I'd say they pulled it off. Further reflection later, but for now, I feel quite alright with that ending.
    Cold War (Pawlikowski, 2018) - **** / 9.3
    Minding the Gap (Liu, 2018) - **** / 9.0
    Green Book (Farrelly, 2018) - **½ / 5.8
    Mandy (Cosmatos, 2018) - **** / 8.9
    The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part (Mitchell, 2019) - *** / 7.7
    Alita: Battle Angel (Rodriguez, 2019) - **½ / 5.9
    Bohemian Rhapsody ("Singer", 2018) - ** / 4.1
    Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse (Persichetti/Ramsey/Rothman, 2018) - **** / 9.2
    Vice (McKay, 2018) - **½ / 5.6
    The Favourite (Lanthimos, 2018) - **** / 9.3

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    yeah. an extremely strong episode. my only complaints were very small ones, but i'll hold off on diving in until everyone has caught up. what i'm saying is hurry up guys.

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    alright, I'm done. My major complaints are my same major complaints I had with season one of 24. Just with those moments of, "Oh look, Jack Bauer and the terrorist are driving next to each other, if only they knew!" Like

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    It's okay if they aren't so close you can taste it and then they miss the mark. Let them be a bit more far off, it's okay, it's not going to ruin the narrative. I would have liked to see this be a one season thing and finish there but alas there needs to be a second season I suppose.

    I loved the psychological what not, when they were sticking to that stuff I liked the show, when they turned into 24 I got annoyed. I'm glad there will be time for me to calm down because though I liked aspects I think I disliked it more overall then liked it and I need time to let it sink in before I'll probably find it good enough to continue to the next season.

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    I'd say this ranks up there with the best TV dramas of all time. Finished the season last night and I was really impressed.
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    Well, damn Benny, high praise indeed which is awesome because this is one show I'm gonna watch very soon.
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    Quote Quoting Benny Profane (view post)
    I'd say this ranks up there with the best TV dramas of all time. Finished the season last night and I was really impressed.
    I felt that it began and ended strongly, but got a little muddled in the middle. I have high hopes for next season.

    For instance, I hope they change the ridiculous opening credit sequence.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Quote Quoting Mara (view post)
    For instance, I hope they change the ridiculous opening credit sequence.
    Yeah, I FF'd through that after the second episode or so.
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    Finished this. After episode 7 it does start to veer into 24-territory a bit more, but I'd still say this is great television.

    Lewis & Danes are great, but so is Patinkin.
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    I guess that's my biggest concern in general: that this might turn into 24. The twists here worked in general, but that's because the characters do as well.

    I'm intrigued to know what season 2 will look like, but also a bit worried. Time will tell.
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    Saw episode 7 tonight. Man, they certainly kept teasing and teasing which isn't a bad thing as it keeps proceedings more grounded and realistic than 24. That said, I was waiting for it to grab me and tonight I think that it's gone ahead and done just that with the reveal of [
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    Doesn't Mandy Patinkin just rock? Maybe it's the beard. Seriously, cool actor.
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    Final bunch of episodes just blew me away really. I love this show, but like some others, wonder how it's going to segue into season 2. I mean[
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    I like the show's switch to more 24-type territory. We all knew the big thrills would eventually materialize and they're exciting and plausible. Take the [
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    And Lewis is really great in this finale. [
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    At the same time, such duality and nuance is nicely contrasting with a show such as 24 which deals only in absolutes. Brody's [
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    And that's quite remarkable because Homeland bravely succeeds in creating the kind of villainy that is relatively easy to identify with, to understand even. [
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    Carrie is a wonderful character. I totally did not expect her [
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    She and Saul have a great relationship. Really wonderful, but never phony. Saul has no qualms about [
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    To top it off, Morena Baccarin is hot!
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    Well the hype was for good reason. Comcast OnDemand has the first two episodes (albeit, edited) up, so I watched them last night. Need to get my hands on the rest. I'm even considering a brief subscription to Showtime while the new season airs so that I can catch up on Showtime OnDemand.

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    After the Pilot :lol::

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    Very interesting. Sometimes it felt like it was getting a little too self-congratulatory, like it was already counting its Emmys, but for the most part felt pretty genuine.
    On one hand I feel like this show is insanely overrated. At the same time it's also pretty good.
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    I was strangely underwhelmed by the opening to Season 2. Partly I think it's because having Brody as a possible VP is ludicrous, and I couldn't stop rolling my eyes at the safe sequence - I don't buy any of that nonsense. They've painted themselves into a corner with his character, and I hope they get him out soon. Not to mention the hoary "He's a Muslim!" slip up seemed unusually manufactured and melodramatic for this show.

    Carrie's relationship with her family was much more interesting and her getting back into operations like a duck to water a more fertile ground for plot developments.

    I'm wary ATM.
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    Quote Quoting ThePlashyBubbler (view post)
    After the Pilot :lol::
    I did not remember that. How prescient.

    I'm interested in the new season, but it's not a huge priority for me. I guess I didn't miss the show that much.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    I was strangely underwhelmed by the opening to Season 2. Partly I think it's because having Brody as a possible VP is ludicrous, and I couldn't stop rolling my eyes at the safe sequence - I don't buy any of that nonsense. They've painted themselves into a corner with his character, and I hope they get him out soon. Not to mention the hoary "He's a Muslim!" slip up seemed unusually manufactured and melodramatic for this show.

    Carrie's relationship with her family was much more interesting and her getting back into operations like a duck to water a more fertile ground for plot developments.

    I'm wary ATM.
    In a world where Sarah Palin was a vice presidential candidate for one of the two political parties you're gonna complain about Brody's potential nomination? Did you see the jokers that were running for president under the republican ticket this year?

    Loved Carrie's insane smile as she was getting away from that Lebanese cop

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    In a world where Sarah Palin was a vice presidential candidate for one of the two political parties you're gonna complain about Brody's potential nomination? Did you see the jokers that were running for president under the republican ticket this year?

    Loved Carrie's insane smile as she was getting away from that Lebanese cop
    Yes, I am. Not because he wouldn't be a candidate in real life (who really cares?) but that it makes for a lot of implausible drama given the terrorist angle.
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    but what exactly is so implausible about it? because he's a secret terrorist?

    it's not like he's out there making videos like OBL or something

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    Quote Quoting Mara (view post)
    I guess I didn't miss the show that much.
    OR SO I THOUGHT. I found the premiere very absorbing. I hope we've worked through some of the writing problems. There are a few improbabilities, but there always were... I'm feeling forgiving.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Oh, and can we talk about reporter lady's hair? IT IS AMAZING.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Breaking Bad quality of Television, tonight's episode was.

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    I need to see if this is available on Netflix, as I don't have Showtime.

    Everyone I know who has seen it loves it.

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