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    The Amazon Thread (or, for Duke, the I Love Bezos Thread)

    Kindle Fire

    • backed up on the Amazon Cloud
    • full-color
    • touchscreen Kindle for movies, music, apps, games & reading
    • $199



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    Silk Browser for Kindle - kind of like Opera, using Amazon's massive servers to preload content for major increases in browsing speed.

    This is awesome stuff. Sure, Amazon is directly attacking Apple on their own turf, but it's all much more appealing in every possible way.

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    Yeah, very nice. I'd take this over an iPad if I didn't already have a bunch of books purchased on my iPhone's iBook. Though I'm sure I can find a way to convert them. Hm.
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    two things I want to learn:

    1. Battery Life
    2. 3G version later?

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    I would assume, considering it's Amazon, that Netflix isn't a compatible app for the Fire. If it does work, I'd seriously consider grabbing one of these, as my wife has kind of taken ownership over my other Kindle.

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    Wonder if that'll drive down the price of the iPad. Great pricepoint. Will probably wait for version two to come out to knock out the bugs.

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    No, what will drive down the price of iPad 2 is when iPad 3 comes out next year.

    Apple has never lowered prices because of competition, since there are still people who prefer Apple products despite the competition being cheaper (or even arguably better).
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    Pre-ordered w/ leather case - I'm excited. I don't care if it doesn't support Netflix because I have Prime. Netflix will also be bought by Amazon soon anyway...

    One annoyance I can see is there is NO physical button for sound volume It's built into the task bar.

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    Get it? Kindle....Fire?

    Those guys at Amazon are pretty clever if you ask me.
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    No, what will drive down the price of iPad 2 is when iPad 3 comes out next year.

    Apple has never lowered prices because of competition, since there are still people who prefer Apple products despite the competition being cheaper (or even arguably better).
    Amazon is the first contender with a comparable (or even larger in places) ecosystem, and enough power behind everything to be able to pull off something like this. In this situation, especially if it turns out that it all actually works, Apple will quickly run out of excuses for their pricing. I mean, at this point it's pretty much down to "but it's iOS", "Netflix works" and "I have so much invested already". The hardware is comparable, with Amazon and others offering more choice, and for this class of devices Android is at least equally usable.

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    An article stressing that a second-gen will be released in the first quarter of 2012. If true, that's going to piss a lot of people off right from the start.

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    Without 3G, this first-gen is rather useless to me as an upgrade. I rarely remember to download things other than books in advance.
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    Quote Quoting [ETM] (view post)
    I mean, at this point it's pretty much down to "but it's iOS", "Netflix works" and "I have so much invested already". The hardware is comparable, with Amazon and others offering more choice, and for this class of devices Android is at least equally usable.

    I have to admit that, despite not being an Apple Fanboy by any means (i had an iPhone 3G, swapped it for an Infuse), I still got an iPad2 because after thinking about it, I just didn't care about the customization of the Android. I liked iOS, I liked that it just worked, and yes, "Netflix works" is a big reason for my final decision.

    That said, The Kindle Fire looks slick. My parents were already looking at possibly getting a tablet and I think this'll be right up their alley.

    If I didnt have a tablet already, I'd consider it myself.

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    Why is everyone using this "Netflix works" in quotes?

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    I was referring to what a hypothetical Apple customer would say as an excuse to go/stick with Apple.

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    But i have Netflix on my Droid. Works awesome.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    But i have Netflix on my Droid. Works awesome.
    It does now. At the time I was shopping for a tablet, it didn't work very well. Most Honeycomb tablets couldn't stream at all, and those that could (including my coworker's Samsung Tab) kept having issues with buffering and pixelation.

    It also works great on my Infuse too. It didn't work at all 8 weeks ago.

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    The real point (for me) is $79 Kindle. Amazon playin' a competitive game.

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    Looks great and very good positioning. Troubling that there's a lack of any kind of spec. The Kindle has never been about that, but it's odd that if this thing supposedly supports streaming movies and Flash that there's no word on screen resolution or processing power.

    I'll believe the 8 hours of battery life when I see it. Amazon sells hardware as a means of selling content. They've never cared about it, so I'm dying to see how well one of these things actually runs.

    Silk is very cool (assuming Amazon doesn't continue to have datacenter problems like the ones they've been having). Keeping every ounce of your data on Amazon's servers is a bit of a privacy and security nightmare, though.

    I don't see this is a competitor to iPad at all. Bezos is appealing on price and content, which is what Amazon has always done. What it will do is make it nearly impossible for any other Android tablet maker to enter the market with an offering above $300. In other words, this will have a much greater impact on other Androids than it does on Apple.

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    Interesting essay on Silk, and how Amazon is screwing Google:

    http://cdespinosa.posterous.com/fire

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Netflix will also be bought by Amazon soon anyway...
    Looks like Hulu is up first.

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    That article is a month old. It was reported earlier than that Google was more interested in Hulu

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    That article is a month old.
    Damn you, Ebert.

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    The real point (for me) is $79 Kindle. Amazon playin' a competitive game.
    I'm considering a Kindle now. I was interested in the Fire, but it sounds like it's not as good for reading as the 'lesser' kindles.
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    Purely for reading, I'd always go with an e-ink reader. Battery life rules, too.

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