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    Time Out's top 100 mainland Chinese films, compiled from a plethora of sources. Really feel like I need to rewatch Farewell my Concubine in order to understand its placement here--is this a bias toward the likely 30-40 year olds asked on the list, or does it truly outweigh Spring in a Small Town?

    Meantime, is there any way to see Jia's Pickpocket? It's not on Netflix...

    The Goddess, incidentally, was a mesmerizing watch last year. So good, and so under-discussed.
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    Peking Opera Blues > Farewell my Combine


    Seriously though, I like FMC. Actually, it might be the only film on the list that I've seen in its entirety. Often I find mainland films too bleak or dull to hold my attention. I should look through this list and watch some. So thanks for the link.

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    Haha that'd be my top two, too.

    Both amazing films but yeah I'd give the edge to Chen. That could be a bit of a nostalgia pick since I saw it when I was a younger, budding cinephile, and the immensity of the film's scope, the blending of the personal and political, blew me away. But even today I'm still in awe of Leslie Cheung's performance (probably my favorite ever performance in a movie), so I'd give it the edge for that if nothing else.

    I haven't seen The Goddess but I think I have a copy of it somewhere? Hard to remember these days, I used to just collect movies en masse and then barely watched any of them and now my collection is in disarray through neglect. I don't know where anything is and I stopped cataloguing everything.
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    I share a similar experience - Farewell my Concubine was one of the first "real" pieces of world cinema that I ever saw. Of course I had seen dozens of Hong Kong genre films before then, but I had never seen anything like FMC.

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    Who saw the 2011 remake of A Chinese Ghost Story?

    I'm so disconnected from HK cinema these days that I didn't even know it existed!

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    I watched the first Lone Wolf & Cub film for the first time today. Really good and definitely a different feel then Shogun Assassin. As much as it pains me to say (preferring a dubbed American version over an original) I think I still like Shogun better though. Shogun has a far better soundtrack and some fantastic lines where as Lone Wolf is a far quieter slower picture (owing a lot to the fact that Shogun is two films crammed into one) with a better story and more room for the plot to breathe.
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    I like Shanghai Blues a lot more than Peking Opera Blues.
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    Some seller on Amazon is selling the first collection of Lupin films (new) for $2k, and another is selling it for $900. Used range from $65 to $1300.

    WTF?

    http://www.amazon.com/Lupin-3rd-Movi...%3A+First+Haul

    2nd collection is going for almost as much.

    http://www.amazon.com/Lupin-3rd-Movi...%3A+First+Haul

    Guess I should list mine.

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    It's worth noting that no one is going to pay the higher end of these prices. Though it might be worth it to turn them around for $200.

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    That's what I usually do. Undercut buy a lot so I actually sell it.

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    So the Wu Tang Collection is uploading their entire catalog to Youtube.

    TONS of great classics here.

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtG...p_H0NNOFr-B-Qg

    A few to start with:
    7 Grandmasters
    Born Invincible
    18 Bronzemen
    Dance of the Drunken Mantis

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    Corey Yuen's scene in 7 Grandmasters is the epitome of classic kung fu action.


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    Wow.

    Looks like the Shaw Brothers have put their entire catalog on Youtube. Tons of free trailers, and you can rent or buy for $1-5 bucks.

    https://www.youtube.com/user/shawbro...niverse/videos

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    Time Out's top 100 mainland Chinese films, compiled from a plethora of sources. Really feel like I need to rewatch Farewell my Concubine in order to understand its placement here--is this a bias toward the likely 30-40 year olds asked on the list, or does it truly outweigh Spring in a Small Town?

    Meantime, is there any way to see Jia's Pickpocket? It's not on Netflix...

    The Goddess, incidentally, was a mesmerizing watch last year. So good, and so under-discussed.
    Farewell, My Concubine is pretty overrated. I think it's only so high on the list because it was somewhat daring for China for having a gay protagonist, and because it was a big hit in the West. In many ways, I prefer Chen's subsequent Temptress Moon, even if it's not a totally successful movie.

    Spring in a Small Town, Horse Thief, Raise the Red Lantern, The Story of Qiu Jiu, The Blue Kite, To Live, Devils on the Doorstep, Platform, Hero, Purple Butterfly, The World, Still Life, The Sun Also Rises, and 24 City are all pretty wonderful.

    The Goddess is certainly worth seeing, though I'm not sure its reputation as a classic is entirely justified; it seemed to me a fairly straightforward "fallen woman" melodrama Ã* la G.W. Pabst. I much prefer Center Stage (aka Actress, aka Ruan Ling-yu), Stanley Kwan's biopic about Ruan.

    Red Sorghum is pretty snazzy to look at but ultimately less than the sum of its parts, and The House of Flying Daggers bored me when I saw it in theatres. I liked Touch of Sin, but not nearly as much as some of Jia's other films. I don't think the humour of Let the Bullets Fly translates into English, but maybe that's just me. In any case, I found this pretty mechanical and dull as a spaghetti western (ramen eastern?). Also, I seem to be alone in finding Drug War a fairly routine crime thriller only slightly elevated by the terse narration (it's the Chinese equivalent of Haywire).

    I was less interested in Black Snow (a kind of low-key noir set in Beijing at the end of the '80s) than the interview with Xie on the British DVD where he talks about his memories of the Cultural Revolution, which he remembers as the best time of his life. I remember liking Summer Palace when it came out but have little desire to see it again.

    Blind Shaft (and Li's subsequent Blind Mountain) is pretty grim and unpleasant. But City of Life and Death (aka Nanking! Nanking!) is downright pornographic. Unknown Pleasures was the first Jia movie I tried to watch, but the storyline was so depressing (and the photography so cruddy) that I had to turn it off after an hour, though I suppose I should give it another look given my admiration for his other movies.

    I liked Last Train Home but is it really a Chinese movie? And where's Xiu Xiu: The Sent Down Girl?

    I have Ju Dou, In the Heat of the Sun, Xiao Wu (aka Pickpocket), Beijing Bicycle, and Kekexili: Mountain Patrol on DVD, but haven't gotten around to watching them. Also, I haven't seen Winter Vacation but Li's earlier Routine Holiday is pretty hilarious in spots.
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    Only seen 6 out of the list, and 3 are from Zhang Yimou.

    The other three are Farewell My Concubine (liked it well enough), Drug War (great thriller), and The Message. The last one is really fun. An Agatha Christie-flavored story set in modern spy thriller mode.
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    Although it's an english spoken movie is Snowpiercer allowed in the conversation? I mean it's asian to the core, no? Pretty much like a live action anime. Despite losing steam (sorry) near the end and a few scenes here and there that were stupid (Evans firing a machine gun as a sniper rifle.. wat), I was surprised with the overall surrealness of it all, it's b-movie charms won me over.

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    Quote Quoting dreamdead (view post)
    Time Out's top 100 mainland Chinese films, compiled from a plethora of sources. Really feel like I need to rewatch Farewell my Concubine in order to understand its placement here--is this a bias toward the likely 30-40 year olds asked on the list, or does it truly outweigh Spring in a Small Town?

    Meantime, is there any way to see Jia's Pickpocket? It's not on Netflix...

    The Goddess, incidentally, was a mesmerizing watch last year. So good, and so under-discussed.
    Did I miss it? Is the "Mainland China" caveat in the title really the only reason they're ignoring Yang's A Brighter Summer Day?

    Boo-urns...

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    Well, Yang and the film (including its setting) are Taiwanese.
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    I watched 4/5 (Tag, Love & Peace, Shinjuku Swan, and The Virgin Psychics) of Sion Sono's 2015 films and they are all ridiculous as hell, but still fun I guess haha. The Whispering Star looks the most promising. Anyone seen it?
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    Any consensus with Hong-jin Na's the Chaser?

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Any consensus with Hong-jin Na's the Chaser?

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1190539/reference
    Loved it. I think it's one of the best thrillers of the last decade.

    If you want to have a wild weekend, watch "The Chaser," "I Saw the Devil," and "Memories of Murder" as a triple-bill, in that order.

    ETA: Throw "The Wailing" in there too (it's on Netflix).
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    Just remembered that there was supposed to be a US remake but they never made it.
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    So that newest Godzilla film sure looks great, and damn is it ever dull.

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    Oh by the way, I saw The Wailing. What the fuck was all that about?

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    Sion Sono's Tag is...OK? Great opening, of course. About half way through the film, I said to myself [
    ]and it was. I liked a number of the set pieces, and a few of the actresses were good, but over all, it felt like someone trying to ape Mamoru Oshii, but with gore. There was a time in my life when that would have been an awesome premise. I prefer AVALON and Resurrection of the Little Match Girl for a somewhat similar offering.

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