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    I'll speculate that:

    -It's not Morpheus, but Morpheus' son.
    -The Oracle did say she would see Neo again. Perhaps in the "rebooted Matrix," another the Machines simply rebuild him, but couldn't rebuild his memory. He has to figure that out on his own.
    -Trinity is playing undercover or knowingly dumb to avoid the Machines and Agents.

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    Best big franchise trailer in a long, long time though. I'm pumped.

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    I'm totally jazzed for this. The action looks great, and Wachowskis haven't disappointed me yet.

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    Guess I’ll dissent. I’m underwhelmed. The VFX look a little too digital and same-y as any other modern action movie (even relying on the same tired orange/blue color correction).

    The Matrix (original) is a high bar.
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    Guess Iíll dissent. Iím underwhelmed. The VFX look a little too digital and same-y as any other modern action movie (even relying on the same tired orange/blue color correction).

    The Matrix (original) is a high bar.
    Yeah, the effects here look somehow phonier than what they had 20+ years ago, and, while everyone else online seems to be losing their shit over this, I really see the big deal; I mean, while it doesn't seem as flawless now as it did when I was a pre-teen, I'm still a pretty big fan of the original film, but of course, that trilogy was apparently nothing but downhill after that, and this trailer just seems like a lot of the same old nostalgic callbacks that Hollywood uses as a substitute for new ideas. Plus, it's not like the Wachowskis ever truly recaptured that same magic later in their career, and I'm just tired of seeing old franchises be rebooted in general. Still though, I remember how the trailer for Reloaded made that one look fucking AMAZING, so hopefully it'll be the opposite situation this time around (as in weak trailer, but good final movie).

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    This looks pretty cool although granted I liked the sequels, even though neither of them came close to the original flick.
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    I'll throw this in to the conversation, based on having played the Matrix Online for a short while (which the Wachowskis did say was canon at the time, although if I was to wager a bet Lana probably forgets The Matrix Online ever existed haha):

    Immediately after the events of Revolutions, the Matrix is rebooted (as seen in the final scene of Revolutions) and the Machines uphold the peace treaty (as The Architect promises): those who want to stay in the rebooted matrix do, and those that want to leave are disconnected and sent to Zion. The Matrix Online is interesting in this context because the story is actually about resurrecting Neo and his RSI, so in a way the Wachowskis already kinda did some ground work (but again, I'll assume Lana ignores this and takes the ideas in a different direction). Morpheus leads an opposition movement in the newly rebooted matrix and creates new tensions between Zion and Machine City because the machines renege on one of their promises: they refuse to return Neo's body to Zion (iirc, they recycle Trinity's body). Morpheus demands the return of Neo and various factions start to come into conflict over this: some humans continue to distrust the machines and attempt to salvage Neo's RSI to resurrect him in the matrix, while rogue programs (including The Merovingian, as well a faction of rogue Agents) start waging their own wars. Eventually, Morpheus is assassinated by one of these rogue factions (presumably, The Merovingian) and the peace treaty between Zion and Machine City begins to crumble. That's where I stopped playing but from what I understand the peace eventually ends and war resumes, and the humans try to reassemble Morpheus's RSI to bring him back as well, while The Merovingian apparently becomes the "big bad" of the whole thing, figuring out how the matrix itself works and waging war both within and without (as I recall, you played as a "red pill" in the game with your own custom RSI and could actually choose to align yourself with one of three factions: Zion, Machine City, or The Merovingian). The game wasn't terribly popular in the end and it got shut down long before these story arcs resolved.

    Anyways, it was a neat game partly because it played a lot with the concept of RSIs (residual self images) which the movies never really got into much (particularly with WB shooting down ideas like Switch using their RSI to swap genders). Based on the trailer for Resurrections, I'd wager that RSIs will actually be prominent in the new movie as well (we see that with Neo in the mirror, etc.) and again I'm doubting Matrix Online is canon but it still points to ideas that Lana will probably still use, namely: Machine City kept Neo's body and plugged him back into the matrix (he's being fed blue pills by NPH to manipulate his RSI, for example) while Trinity may or may not be alive (based on Matrix Online, she would have to be a resurrected RSI iirc but Machine City could still have her body) and Morpheus almost certainly is "dead" (the recast could suggest he's a reassembled RSI like in Matrix Online or simply another program). That's as far as I'll speculate, though I find it curious (again) that The Merovingian is also back in the new movie and I'd wager his role will remain consistent with what we've seen even in the game (he's still the leader of a massive crime syndicate, still a rogue program that wants to kill the Oracle, and I'd bet like in the game he now exerts influence outside of the matrix itself).

    It's fun to reflect on this now; I have to admit, the nostalgia hit me in waves while watching the trailer. I don't get hyped for blockbusters anymore but I was obsessed with The Matrix back in the day.
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    As I recall, Matrix Online is canon, and was fully approved by the Wachowskis. What you've told me about it plays to that trailer quite well.

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    Quote Quoting Stay Puft (view post)
    I'll throw this in to the conversation, based on having played the Matrix Online for a short while (which the Wachowskis did say was canon at the time, although if I was to wager a bet Lana probably forgets The Matrix Online ever existed haha):

    Immediately after the events of Revolutions, the Matrix is rebooted (as seen in the final scene of Revolutions) and the Machines uphold the peace treaty (as The Architect promises): those who want to stay in the rebooted matrix do, and those that want to leave are disconnected and sent to Zion. The Matrix Online is interesting in this context because the story is actually about resurrecting Neo and his RSI, so in a way the Wachowskis already kinda did some ground work (but again, I'll assume Lana ignores this and takes the ideas in a different direction). Morpheus leads an opposition movement in the newly rebooted matrix and creates new tensions between Zion and Machine City because the machines renege on one of their promises: they refuse to return Neo's body to Zion (iirc, they recycle Trinity's body). Morpheus demands the return of Neo and various factions start to come into conflict over this: some humans continue to distrust the machines and attempt to salvage Neo's RSI to resurrect him in the matrix, while rogue programs (including The Merovingian, as well a faction of rogue Agents) start waging their own wars. Eventually, Morpheus is assassinated by one of these rogue factions (presumably, The Merovingian) and the peace treaty between Zion and Machine City begins to crumble. That's where I stopped playing but from what I understand the peace eventually ends and war resumes, and the humans try to reassemble Morpheus's RSI to bring him back as well, while The Merovingian apparently becomes the "big bad" of the whole thing, figuring out how the matrix itself works and waging war both within and without (as I recall, you played as a "red pill" in the game with your own custom RSI and could actually choose to align yourself with one of three factions: Zion, Machine City, or The Merovingian). The game wasn't terribly popular in the end and it got shut down long before these story arcs resolved.

    Anyways, it was a neat game partly because it played a lot with the concept of RSIs (residual self images) which the movies never really got into much (particularly with WB shooting down ideas like Switch using their RSI to swap genders). Based on the trailer for Resurrections, I'd wager that RSIs will actually be prominent in the new movie as well (we see that with Neo in the mirror, etc.) and again I'm doubting Matrix Online is canon but it still points to ideas that Lana will probably still use, namely: Machine City kept Neo's body and plugged him back into the matrix (he's being fed blue pills by NPH to manipulate his RSI, for example) while Trinity may or may not be alive (based on Matrix Online, she would have to be a resurrected RSI iirc but Machine City could still have her body) and Morpheus almost certainly is "dead" (the recast could suggest he's a reassembled RSI like in Matrix Online or simply another program). That's as far as I'll speculate, though I find it curious (again) that The Merovingian is also back in the new movie and I'd wager his role will remain consistent with what we've seen even in the game (he's still the leader of a massive crime syndicate, still a rogue program that wants to kill the Oracle, and I'd bet like in the game he now exerts influence outside of the matrix itself).

    It's fun to reflect on this now; I have to admit, the nostalgia hit me in waves while watching the trailer. I don't get hyped for blockbusters anymore but I was obsessed with The Matrix back in the day.
    From what the trailer looks like, and what you just described, they may just be adapting the game as a film.
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    Damn. I never heard of that game.

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