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    How much contact have you had with military personnel?
    I don't get it...are you saying military personnel are just "BADASS MUTHA-FUCKAS!! GONNA KICK SOME ASS AND TAKE NAMES!!"

    That doesn't really seem like depth of character to me.


    And I find your critique of the action scenes in Aliens to be horrendous.

    Marine 'poses' with weapon? Marine fires wildly? No.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    I don't get it...are you saying military personnel are just "BADASS MUTHA-FUCKAS!! GONNA KICK SOME ASS AND TAKE NAMES!!"
    Marines, basically the mobile infantry, typically attract these kind of folk.

    They go in thinking they're the baddest thing in the universe, and are quickly and decisively put in their place, and then are forced to react to the situation.

    The 'Wise-Ass' has a borderline meltdown, but achieves redemption in the end. Yeah, he's one HARDCORE BAD ASS MUTHAFUCKA.

    A corporal takes over leadership when the officer is incapacitated, and at least one, if not more, higher ranking marines are killed. In the U.S. Marines, a corporal is the lowest non-commissioned officer there is. In other countries, corporal don't mean shit.

    That doesn't really seem like depth of character to me.
    How deep are the characters in Alien?
    “What we are dealing with here is a perfect engine, er... an eating machine. It's really a miracle of evolution. All this machine does is swim and eat and make little sharks and that's all.”

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    Quote Quoting Scar (view post)
    Marines, basically the mobile infantry, typically attract these kind of folk.

    They go in thinking they're the baddest thing in the universe, and are quickly and decisively put in their place, and then are forced to react to the situation.

    The 'Wise-Ass' has a borderline meltdown, but achieves redemption in the end. Yeah, he's one HARDCORE BAD ASS MUTHAFUCKA.

    A corporal takes over leadership when the officer is incapacitated, and at least one, if not more, higher ranking marines are killed. In the U.S. Marines, a corporal is the lowest non-commissioned officer there is. In other countries, corporal don't mean shit.

    OK, this makes sense. I see what you're saying.



    How deep are the characters in Alien?

    Well, for one I thought that the disputes over money felt very much like a modern-day "union dispute" type of thing, and for having come out in the late '70s, the reluctance to take orders from a woman was also very real.

    I also liked the mix of curiosity and fear shown by the crew with regards to the Xenomorph - curiosity from the science personnel and fear from the rest of the crew who just want to get it off the ship and move on.

    I really liked the meal scenes where we saw them interacting with each other very low-key and amiable, the way a group of coworkers/friends would be in real life.

    In Aliens it's a lot of smack-talk and one-upmanship "I'm more badass than you" etc. etc...but like I said with regards to the last part of your post, I can see why they would be portrayed that way once you explained it.

    Because you're right, I haven't had a lot of "experience" with military people. I have one friend who's in the military, but he's a medic, and he's a total hippie.
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    I think you're really letting the influence Aliens has had taint you opinion of the original.

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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    I think you're really letting the influence Aliens has had taint you opinion of the original.

    Don't you do the same thing with the original Halloween?
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    I don't think so. I like the remake more simply becuae it scared me more. I lost sleep after watching the remake. The original never really scared me. But I respect it for it's spawn.

    But maybe.

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    I keep clicking this thread hoping for more info on the film...

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    I keep clicking this thread hoping for more info on the film...
    They say March 2012. I'll say June or July...

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    Aaaaaaaand this is why I like Resurrection best.
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    Aaaaaaaand this is why I like Resurrection best.
    Don't be silly. There's no excuse for that Human-Alien, and also no legit defense to it either.

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    Resurrection took the pseudo-sexual nature of the series and creatures and made it uncomfortable to watch at times.

    And I think that's exactly what they were going for.
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    Fact or bullshit?

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48247

    potential small spoilers.

    EDIT: And Michael Fassbender in negotiations to take male lead.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    They say March 2012. I'll say June or July...
    Yep. Just got pushed back to June.

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    It'd be pretty cool to see xenomorphs in a somewhat different atmosphere and with some new characters.

    I hope it doesn't just turn into "Alien without Sigourney Weaver".
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    Some tantalizing bits of shit:

    http://www.aintitcool.com/node/48469
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    Sweeeeet.

    Can't wait. May be my most anticipated of 2012.
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    I'm cautiously optimistic. Part of me feels that Scott is past his prime. Some may argue that he's been past his prime since 1982, but I did enjoy some of his later movies.
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    So the aliens are giant trucks now???
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    So the aliens are giant trucks now???
    Nope. The Giant trucks are aliens.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Nope. The Giant trucks are aliens.

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    Resurrection, for now, is a movie I'm heavily biased against seeing. I just feel that the series should have ended with Alien 3.

    For me, its really close between Alien and Aliens. Both are great films, but yes the first one is truly the best. Alien 3 is rather solid, but from what I remembered it had some weak moments. Its a really bleak movie, so maybe that figured into my rating. I'd have to see it again-I've viewed the first two more recently.

    Scott will always be one of my favorite directors. Robin Hood was so meh, I'm just worried he won't make another good/solid movie again. So yeah I'm worried about him losing his touch, although hearing that he has a new project makes me happy.
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    You should give Alien: Resurrection a chance, MadMan.

    It's so incredibly different from the other films. It's a Jeunet film, through and through.
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    Yeah, there's some entertaining stuff in Alien: Resurrection. If it weren't for the last 10-15 minutes, I'd say it's a definite **** movie.

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