Sequels that are as good as (or better than) the original

**MacGuffin** · 10-24-2010, 12:36 AM

Because I can't think of any of the top of my head, and it's Halloween--there are a lot of horror movies that have sequels (although don't necessarily feel restricted to horror).

**Spinal** · 10-24-2010, 12:45 AM

X-Men 2
Spiderman 2
Manderlay
Evil Dead 2
Mad Max: Beyond Thunderdome

**DavidSeven** · 10-24-2010, 12:45 AM

The three typical picks for this group are deserving of their status and set the standard:

The Godfather Part II
The Empire Strikes Back
The Dark Knight

And now we wait. We wait for the contrarians.

**Qrazy** · 10-24-2010, 12:49 AM

Empire Strikes Back
Aliens
Godfather Part II
The Dark Knight
Orpheus
In the Mood for Love
Evil Dead II
Samurai II
X2
Star Trek II
Toy Story II
Terminator 2
Red

**Spinal** · 10-24-2010, 12:50 AM

Quoting DavidSeven (view post)

The three typical picks for this group are deserving of their status and set the standard:

The Godfather Part II
The Empire Strikes Back
The Dark Knight

And now we wait. We wait for the contrarians.

Never been a fan of the second Godfather.

Used to agree on Empire, but my most recent viewing was very disappointing.

Definitely agree on the Batman movie.

Winston* · 10-24-2010, 12:51 AM

Mad Max II: The Road Warrior
LOTR: The Two Towers
Three Colours: White
For a Few Dollars More / The Good, the Bad and The Ugly

**Spinal** · 10-24-2010, 12:54 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Three Colours: White
For a Few Dollars More / The Good, the Bad and The Ugly

Yes.

**jenniferofthejungle** · 10-24-2010, 01:02 AM

Dawn of the Dead as good as.

**Raiders** · 10-24-2010, 01:06 AM

BABE: PIG IN THE CITY
THE EXORCIST III
THE BOURNE SUPREMACY
THE TESTAMENT OF DR. MABUSE
OCEAN'S TWELVE
GREMLINS 2: THE NEW BATCH

**jenniferofthejungle** · 10-24-2010, 01:08 AM

Braden here:

Star Trek II:The Wrath of Khan

Friday the 13th Part 2 (I know that's not saying much, but it still holds true)

Return of the One-Armed Swordsman

From Russia with Love

**transmogrifier** · 10-24-2010, 01:09 AM

More than you'd think:

Three Colours: White
Batman Returns
Terminator 3
The Empire Strikes Back
Toy Story 3
Infernal Affairs II
The Addams Family Values
LOTR: The Two Towers
The Chronicles of Riddick
The Bourne Supremacy
Hellboy 2
Ocean's 12
Final Destination 2
Babe Pig in the City
Austin Powers 2
Before Sunset
Gremlins 2
Back to the Future 2
The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Aliens

plus (but I don't like these ones either all that much)

The Dark Knight
Spiderman 2
Rush Hour 2

**DavidSeven** · 10-24-2010, 01:10 AM

Quoting Spinal (view post)

Used to agree on Empire, but my most recent viewing was very disappointing.

Did you rewatch Star Wars too? I rewatched both a few years ago and was surprised by how much better made Empire was than the first. The first 2/3 of Star Wars has the look and feel of a kids' movie (in the worst sense of the phrase). The end holds up though.

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Two Towers is definitely the best film in that series.

And I recall Red being my favorite of the Three Colors Trilogy as well. Agree on T2, X2, TS 2 as well. No on ITMFL over Days of Being Wild.

Manderlay as good as Dogville? Wow. I actually really like the movie but the downgrade from Kidman to Howard alone seems to render that impossible.

EDIT: And yeah, Ocean's Twelve is so much better than Eleven it's not even funny.

Winston* · 10-24-2010, 01:14 AM

Surprised no ones mentioned Cuaron's Harry Potter film. What are we? Adults?

**jenniferofthejungle** · 10-24-2010, 01:14 AM

Quoting transmogrifier (view post)

More than you'd think:

Terminator 3
LOTR: The Two Towers
Hellboy 2

Your list, but I had to say HELL NO to these.

**transmogrifier** · 10-24-2010, 01:16 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Surprised no ones mentioned Cuaron's Harry Potter film. What are we? Adults?

It's just as bad/good (delete as applicable) as all the others.

**Bosco B Thug** · 10-24-2010, 01:27 AM

Hellraiser II
It's Alive III: Island of the Alive
The Curse of the Cat People
Dr. Phibes Rises Again

All are really "kind ofs" or "almosts"... I actually think none of those are better than the part 1s. Me fail.

**Qrazy** · 10-24-2010, 01:30 AM

Quoting DavidSeven (view post)

Did you rewatch Star Wars too? I rewatched both a few years ago and was surprised by how much better made Empire was than the first. The first 2/3 of Star Wars has the look and feel of a kids' movie (in the worst sense of the phrase). The end holds up though.

Agree on how much better made Empire is.

But in regards to the original I feel the opposite. I find the last third by far the weakest part of the film. It's an asinine concept (destroying the death star that way), followed by shoddy execution (really don't care for the cinematics in that final battle) and topped off by a lame medal ceremony. I enjoy everything up through the trash compactor sequence and then I find the film becomes fairly blah.

**Qrazy** · 10-24-2010, 01:32 AM

I would say...

The Fellowship of the Ring (theatrical) = The Two Towers: Extended Edition > The Return of the King.

The other two extendeds are fun but I prefer the theatrical cut in both cases.

**megladon8** · 10-24-2010, 01:37 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Surprised no ones mentioned Cuaron's Harry Potter film. What are we? Adults?

Yeah, that one is not only the best of the Potter films, but ranks among the great fantasy films IMO.

And I'm sorry but Fellowship of the Ring is by far the best of the trilogy.

**Qrazy** · 10-24-2010, 01:40 AM

Quoting megladon8 (view post)

Yeah, that one is not only the best of the Potter films, but ranks among the great fantasy films IMO.

And I'm sorry but Fellowship of the Ring is by far the best of the trilogy.

It is, but The Two Towers Extended is damn good, really adds to that film.

**transmogrifier** · 10-24-2010, 01:44 AM

Quoting megladon8 (view post)

Yeah, that one is not only the best of the Potter films, but ranks among the great fantasy films IMO.

And I'm sorry but Fellowship of the Ring is by far the best of the trilogy.

Why are you sorry? People have the right to be wrong about whatever they like in the privacy of their own home.

**Skitch** · 10-24-2010, 01:54 PM

Quoting jenniferofthejungle (view post)

Your list, but I had to say HELL NO to these.

Funny. I was gonna disagree with the same ones.

**D_Davis** · 10-24-2010, 02:57 PM

Return of the One-Armed Swordsman
The Swordsman II

**Spinal** · 10-24-2010, 06:11 PM

Quoting DavidSeven (view post)

Did you rewatch Star Wars too? I rewatched both a few years ago and was surprised by how much better made Empire was than the first. The first 2/3 of Star Wars has the look and feel of a kids' movie (in the worst sense of the phrase). The end holds up though.

Yes, I did. I see what people are saying when they say that the second film is better made technically, but that's never been a huge factor for me. I prefer the first film's sense of discovery and invention.

Quoting DavidSeven (view post)

Manderlay as good as Dogville? Wow. I actually really like the movie but the downgrade from Kidman to Howard alone seems to render that impossible.

I'd still rate Dogville higher, but not by much. I actually prefer Bryce Dallas Howard to Kidman, so that might have something to do with it.

**Ezee E** · 10-24-2010, 06:18 PM

I actually prefer Manderlay. I think Lars figures out what worked well in Dogville and improved on it with the use of the set.

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