The Marvel/Sony Superhero Movies Thread

[Ezee E]

Discuss.

Have there been other uses of Mr. Blue Sky?

[number8]

"lots of character bits, not much story"

My kinda shindig.

[Dead & Messed Up]

If by "not much story" they mean "not much convoluted or imposed plotting," then yeah, I'm onboard.

But if they literally mean "not much story," ehh...

[Dukefrukem]

Dual directors for Captain Marvel? Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck.

http://variety.com/2017/film/news/ca...ck-1201994270/

[number8]

Holy shit, I haven't heard their names in a while. I think Sugar was the last film of theirs I watched. That's a really surprising choice.

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh they weren't on the list of probables that Marvel was looking into from a few weeks ago.

Weird to think those two are the final pieces of all the announced movies from Marvel.

I love speculating on Phase 4- When they are finally ready to announce those movies (which won't probably be until after May 4, 2018) they will probably have already locked down directors for the first half of those movies.

[Henry Gale]

Yeah, if Half Nelson was this past awards season instead of a decade ago, this might've made sense, but I would've never guessed them now.

Still, I liked It's Kind Of A Funny Story (though that's coming up on 7 years ago), and though I heard good things about Mississippi Grind, I never saw it. Otherwise they've directed a bunch of episodes of The Affair, Looking and Billions, but not ones I ended up seeing.

But then again, I'm not sure Marvel has gone with expected choices since Whedon and Black gave people what they wanted.

[Dukefrukem]

But then again, I'm not sure Marvel has gone with expected choices since Whedon and Black gave people what they wanted.

Gunn for GotG vol3 was expected. Vol2 is guarreteed to be a monster so it only makes sense for him to do 3. Win win for both parties. Feige also said he expects Gunn to be a life long consultant on the MCU post vol3 because he enjoys that universe so much. He's basically an easier to work with Whedon.

[Henry Gale]

Gunn for GotG vol3 was expected. Vol2 is guarreteed to be a monster so it only makes sense for him to do 3. Win win for both parties. Feige also said he expects Gunn to be a life long consultant on the MCU post vol3 because he enjoys that universe so much. He's basically an easier to work with Whedon.

Well I meant aside from sequel returns. Gunn wasn't everyone's first thought for the first Guardians either. His closest proximity to franchise stuff previously was writing the Scooby-Doo movies a decade before.

[Irish]

Dual directors for Captain Marvel? Anna Boden and Ryan Fleck.

Well, I guess that's one way to hire a woman and not hire her.

How they gonna work this with DGA rules?

[number8]

Huh? Boden and Fleck have always directed together. They've been partners since they were in film school. They have never had any DGA issues. You can apply to be guild members as co-directors.

[Irish]

Huh? The DGA has an agreement with the studios that there's only one director on a film. (The Coen Bros films only credit one brother per role, Robert Rodriguez notably quit the guild over this, etc.)

I'm assuming their shared credits were on non-union films. "Half Nelson," by contrast, has only one credited director--Fleck.

[Lazlo]

Russo Brothers?
Wachowskis?
Lord and Miller?

Coens have been credited as co-directors since No Country, if I'm not mistaken.

[Dukefrukem]

What about all the Pixar movies with double director duty?

[Irish]

What about all the Pixar movies with double director duty?

Different guild.

[number8]

Huh? The DGA has an agreement with the studios that there's only one director on a film. (The Coen Bros films only credit one brother per role, Robert Rodriguez notably quit the guild over this, etc.)

I'm assuming their shared credits were on non-union films. "Half Nelson," by contrast, has only one credited director--Fleck.

The Coens have not done that in over a decade. The DGA has a "Singularity of vision" waiver that they grant to co-directing teams. This is how the aforementioned directors listed by others above work. Boden and Fleck have that waiver.

[Irish]

Ah -- since 2009. That answers my question then. (I'm surprised at the relatively high number of waivers issued over the last decade; they used to be a lot more reticent about doing so.)

[Ezee E]

Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris too.

[number8]

Cloud Atlas had the most interesting case. The way they ended up getting it through the DGA was by dividing the credits into "segments" (the way credits work with anthology features), which was easy to convince since the movie had multiple time periods, but that was actually a flat out lie. The Wachowskis and Tom Tykwer directed the entire movie as a trio and did not divide the script at all.

[megladon8]

What is the reason for the DGA discouraging "team directing"?

[number8]

It basically boils down to the guild's belief that a Director is a leadership position, and you usually have a single leader on group efforts. That may sound petty, but it's not really that unusual if you compare it to how other organizations/businesses work: there's one President of a country, one CEO of a company, one captain of a ship, etc. It gets muddy because we're talking about artists making art, but as a union, the guild has to see it as jobs. A film set is a workplace, and you have one person who's most in charge of that workplace, leading the different departments.

[Irish]

They also didn't want people giving out "gift credits" and rendering the director credit meaningless, which is exactly what happened to the producer's credit (and why the Producer's Guild recently changed their own rules).

[Winston*]

Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris too.

And the Farrelly brothers.

[Milky Joe]

Discuss.

I kind of felt that about the first one, so, whatever.

[Wryan]

I kind of felt that about the first one, so, whatever.

Hear, hear.