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    The latter. Netflix makes movies for their streaming service. They're not opposed to having theatrical distribution, but US movie theaters refuse to show Netflix films because they don't think there's a point taking up screen space for movies that are already up on Netflix.

    However, Academy rules is that movies need to have one week of theatrical release in NY and LA in order to qualify for the Oscars, so streaming services do always try to get a short theatrical release in some independent theaters for some of their more high-profile films. The IFC Center here has shown Netflix and Hulu original documentaries for a few days the same week they're put up online.
    That's how something like Beasts of No Nation can be nominated. Do you guys realize we now live in a world where a Scorsese mob picture with De Niro, Pacino and Pesci has to go to a TV on demand production company to get made?

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    Yup, and this year's 13th, also a Netflix original.

    This is the main difference between Netflix and Amazon. Amazon actually wants to be a traditional film company, co-financing films like Manchester by the Sea with more established distributors and letting their movies play in theaters for a couple of months before making it available on their streaming service. They're chasing prestige. Netflix doesn't really give a shit, it seems, and cares more about wowing Netflix subscribers.
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    Considering so much of the movie business is about making their money based off of box office returns, how do movies that release on Netflix make that up?

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    They don't. All Netflix cares about is subscriber growth (for now anyway).
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    I was actually just reading about Matt Damon and he’s like, ‘There’s a culture of outrage.’ I’m like, ‘Well, they have a reason to be outraged.’ I think it’s a lot of dudes just being scared. They’re like, ‘What if I did something and I didn’t realize it?’ I’m like, ‘Deal with it.’
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    That's how something like Beasts of No Nation can be nominated. Do you guys realize we now live in a world where a Scorsese mob picture with De Niro, Pacino and Pesci has to go to a TV on demand production company to get made?
    On one hand, I agree. On the other, it looks worse than it actually is. The main reason this happened is because Paramount had a terrible year and booted their CEO.

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    Considering so much of the movie business is about making their money based off of box office returns, how do movies that release on Netflix make that up?
    They don't. In this case, Netflix is only acting as worldwide distributor.

    They're willing to overpay to get marquee names, because it will draw industry prestige and industry prestige will draw other prestige players (potentially names like "Anderson", "Nolan", and "Linklater," etc). The downside is that they can only do it as long as their investors let them do it.

    The people who should be most worried are producers/distributors like Anapurna and A24, because they're going after the same market but they can't match Netflix's payout.

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    Netflix really didn't have anything this big before so this might be unprecedented in how they treat it. Gonna be really fascinating to see the push-and-pull between them and theaters nearer to the release.
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    Netflix really didn't have anything this big before so this might be unprecedented in how they treat it.
    Rumor has it they spent ~$100 million on Baz Luhrman's The Get Down, so what's big?

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    also, wow, that's some gooooooood timing

    Martin Scorsese criticises watching films at home

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    also, wow, that's some gooooooood timing

    Martin Scorsese criticises watching films at home
    I haven't read the article, but Mr. Scorsese apparently isn't watching films with the fucking assholes that I have been. Saw five movies in theater in 2016. Entirely the fault of the theaters not kicking out jackasses.

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    I almost never watch films at home these days. If I don't see it in the cinema, good chance I'll never see it.

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    I went to the theaters more times last year than I have since I was at university. Korean audiences and theaters are great.
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    Quote Quoting Winston* (view post)
    I almost never watch films at home these days. If I don't see it in the cinema, good chance I'll never see it.
    I'm the exact opposite. I generally wait until streaming. Hell, I missed out on almost every major December release in theaters except Rogue One.
    Sure why not?

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    I haven't read the article, but Mr. Scorsese apparently isn't watching films with the fucking assholes that I have been. Saw five movies in theater in 2016. Entirely the fault of the theaters not kicking out jackasses.
    Ha, your stories are part of what keeps me waaaaaay the fuck away from movie theaters, dude.

    (Anyway, yeah, Scorsese is a big "35MM 4 LIFE" guy and a huge film preservationist. He's similar to Nolan and Tarantino that way. My guess is that he made these remarks, too, at an evening event in London before the Netflix announcement hit the press in the American afternoon.)

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    also, wow, that's some gooooooood timing

    Martin Scorsese criticises watching films at home
    People who have consistently terrible theater experiences because of other theatergoers mystify me. I've only ever had a handful of experiences like that. Makes me wonder if you could choose your venue better.

    I agree that home viewing isn't "the best way" to watch a movie but $15-20 for a goddamn movie also isn't "the best price". It's a little tone deaf to just how expensive the theater experience has become for people who haven't seen their wages go up but have seen theater tickets increase while flat screen TV prices plummet. I suspect he was just complaining rather than chastising, but still.

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    If I do see movies on the big screen, I go big and see it at the El Capitan, Arclight, or TCL Chinese. Never had a bad crowd there (though I hate crowds who applaud at everything which happens at every screening I go to). Though not everyone has the privilege of these theaters.

    I actually find my worst theater experiences at old 35mm repertory theaters. Seeing old movies with audiences who like to quote along or laugh out loud to make sure you know they found the scene funny are the worst.
    Sure why not?

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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    If I do see movies on the big screen, I go big and see it at the El Capitan, Arclight, or TCL Chinese. Never had a bad crowd there (though I hate crowds who applaud at everything which happens at every screening I go to). Though not everyone has the privilege of these theaters.

    I actually find my worst theater experiences at old 35mm repertory theaters. Seeing old movies with audiences who like to quote along or laugh out loud to make sure you know they found the scene funny are the worst.
    I'm the exact opposite. The only theater I can go to anymore on a Friday night or a weekend and have a pleasant experience is the arthouse theater near me. If I want to go to a multiplex, I go super late at night during the week, otherwise I get children in R-rated movies and obnoxious movie-goers.
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    I almost never watch films at home these days. If I don't see it in the cinema, good chance I'll never see it.
    Same. Although my work travel gets to me to catch up on some.

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    Fairly sure Scorsese probably gets private screenings of everything he could want in his personal theater.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Rumor has it they spent ~$100 million on Baz Luhrman's The Get Down, so what's big?

    "Have", as in "get", as in: Not big as in what they spent (they have spent plenty before) but big as in the built-in attraction and prestige of the work itself.
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    They are building a huge multiplex in my town that will open later this year. This is in the burbs mind you; population 8,924: so it's kind of crazy how cool this theater is going to be. I think it's going to allow me to go more often since it's 2-3 miles away.

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    The Irishman (Scorsese)

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    This thing is a like a reunion. De Niro, Pacino, and now Pesci and Keitel have signed up.

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    Get that Netflix money, Marty!

    Netflix bought the film for $105 million and agreed to a $125 million budget. But costs have soared to $175 million, said one insider, “and they haven’t done the music yet.”

    The shoot, with locations all over the tri-state area, started in August and wrapped earlier this month. “Scorsese has shot [for more than] 106 days — the most he has ever spent shooting a movie,” said another source.
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