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    Considering the tone of your own response, you seemed to grasp Rowland's intentions pretty well, so no point in playing dumb now. Plus, even if you love both films or feel vice-versa, it is a pretty legitimate question. They are remarkably different films.
    I'm not playing dumb I understood his tone perfectly but that's still not an opinion. I was more annoyed by Boner accusing me of illegitimizing Rowland's opinion with a consensus which I in no way did. He was using the question as a knock against Boyle and I listed the reasons why it shouldn't be considered that way. Even if you didn't like Slumdog you should at least realize that with his oscar director status along with Slumdog's box office take it gives him a lot more leeway to get his movies made and seen by more people.

    And I don't know what your last thought even means. Most directors with decent sized catalogs make remarkably different films.
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    Christ, you people.

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    I thought all Boyle's film projects were decided by fate.
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    This looks dumb as a pile of bricks.
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    Reviews are staggeringly enthusiastic. I will see this!

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    Didn't know that A.R. Rahman did the score for this until yesterday. Good that Boyle's keeping him around afer the awesome music for Slumdog.
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    Anyone (besides E) seen this yet?

    Boyle's spazzaratic direction becomes a bit unnecessary in some of the more quieter moments. Boyle should have let Franco do his thing without any editing trickery. Franco is pretty phenomenal as he carries this film entirely. It would be interesting to see a double feature of this and Buried. The last 20 minutes are some pretty exhilarating stuff (which is quite the change for Boyle).
    Sure why not?

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    Man, I really didn't like this movie. Five minutes of Sigur Ros might be the only thing saving it from being one of the most unpleasant experiences ever. What a pointless exercise. Boyle's aesthetic is balls. Did you ever wonder what "Man vs. Wild" would look like if filmed like Slumdog Millionaire? Yeah, me neither, and I didn't even hate that movie.
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    What was pointless about it? Seems like an odd criticism. Would you have wanted a more traditional story told? I would think a mainstream film to feature most of its runtime in a small space with just one actor to be pretty bold.

    While Boyle's aesthetics may be jarring, Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography is fantastic.
    Sure why not?

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    What was pointless about it? Seems like an odd criticism. Would you have wanted a more traditional story told? I would think a mainstream film to feature most of its runtime in a small space with just one actor to be pretty bold.

    While Boyle's aesthetics may be jarring, Anthony Dod Mantle's cinematography is fantastic.
    The film had absolutely nothing interesting to say. Boyle subjects us to 90 minutes of unpleasantness for what? The sake of showing how many different ways he can capture James Franco's reflection in an inanimate object? I don't care how bold it was; it wasn't enjoyable, and it wasn't substantive. This whole thing can be boiled down to a pat lesson of "don't do everything on your own." Unless, of course, you actually do want a lucrative book and movie deal.
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    Quote Quoting DavidSeven (view post)
    The film had absolutely nothing interesting to say. Boyle subjects us to 90 minutes of unpleasantness for what? The sake of showing how many different ways he can capture James Franco's reflection in an inanimate object? I don't care how bold it was; it wasn't enjoyable, and it wasn't substantive. This whole thing can be boiled down to a pat lesson of "don't do everything on your own." Unless, of course, you actually do want a lucrative book and movie deal.
    Nothing interesting to say? Dude, really? I'm with you on the Boyle overload of his trademark style, but there is a lot of stuff in this film that goes beyond "don't do everything on your own". You don't find Rolston's story fascinating at all? I think it's a great positive story about embracing the willpower to survive. I think it's a film that Herzog would have loved (though I'm sure his take on the material would be more meditative and funnier). I didn't find it unpleasant at all (unless you're talking about the climax). Franco's performance kept it entertaining and he's the primary reason why the whole film works.

    To boil it down to a financial decision is really close-minded. Out of all those "based on a true story" uplifting films, I felt this event was really worth it.
    Sure why not?

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    Do you view Lars Von Trier's films the same way, David? I had similar complaints about Antichrist (which similarly has a shocking gruesome climax, shot by the same DP, and has a very distinct visual style all throughout), but even amongst the talking fox and such, I could tell what von Trier was conveying. Does a film like 127 Hours need to be "enjoyable" or "pleasant"?
    Sure why not?

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    I didn't see Antichrist, but I consider myself a von Trier fan. Love Dogville and Dancer in the Dark especially. But von Trier is a good storyteller and he has provocative things to say. I usually appreciate his craft too (notwithstanding The Idiots). 127 Hours doesn't even have a story and it isn't provocative in the least. Usually filmmakers use unpleasantness on the screen to convey something deeper; Boyle has no such ambitions. If it's not interesting and its not enjoyable, what am I left to appreciate in one of his films? A bunch of camera tricks that feel like cinematic wankery? No thanks.
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    127 Hours doesn't even have a story and it isn't provocative in the least.
    It has a main protagonist. It has a beginning, middle, and end. I'd say that qualifies as a story. Fuck plot anyways. The film restrains itself of being saccharine by limiting the flashbacks and developing Rolston through his present actions, not his past. It's way more provocative than just reading a Wikipedia page on the guy. It seems you're caught up in Boyle's direction more than anything (which I agree with), but it's not like the split-screens and fast-editing was in every shot. I thought the music video-style of filmmaking worked sometimes (like the way the video camera was used as a portal into Rolston's insanity) and sometimes it didn't (like the split-screens). If anything, the film needed to be more experimental.
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    Fine. The story just sucks and the main character is poorly rendered. Franco is fine, but his performance isn't that special. But how could it be when Boyle is too preoccupied with tilting his camera and what not to capture anything meaningful? Yeah, I'm caught up in his direction, but this film is all direction + a smidgen of Franco. How long was the script? 10 pages? There's nothing else to judge this thing on.
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    So a film's quality needs to be judged on script length now? I don't see how that matters at all.

    What happened to you Dave? Where was that poster years ago that I fell in love with?

    Gone. :sad:
    Sure why not?

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    So a film's quality needs to be judged on script length now? I don't see how the matters at all.
    Man, you really aren't paying attention to what I'm saying, are you?
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    Anyway, you said I was too preoccupied with the direction. I'm saying that, by the very nature of the film, you can't really judge it on anything else. Most of this film is one actor doing mostly physical things. My comment about the script length is just highlighting that point; I'm not making any judgments there.
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    Quote Quoting DavidSeven (view post)
    Anyway, you said I was too preoccupied with the direction. I'm saying that, by the very nature of the film, you can't really judge it on anything else. Most of this film is one actor doing mostly physical things. My comment about the script length is just highlighting that point; I'm not making any judgments there.
    Yeah, I understand. I just don't see this as a criticism. It seems from your complaints like you wanted a more fleshed out backstory, told in a more traditional Hollywood way. I'd argue that Franco dominates the film more than Boyle does.
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    I don't really know what I wanted it to be. Less annoying, maybe. I think I would prefer it exist as a five minute news segment on CNN and nothing more. Alternatively, I would prefer to have simply ignored it. I was wary of the premise going in, but I was going to see something tonight and the consensus duped me.
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    So far, no one has explained why watching a guy trapped under a rock is compelling.
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    So far, no one has explained why watching a guy trapped under a rock is compelling.
    Same reason why a guy creating Facebook is compelling? The way it's told?
    Sure why not?

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    So far, no one has explained why watching a guy trapped under a rock is compelling.
    They can't. It's not.

    Especially when your protagonist is portrayed as a typical extreme sports frat boy goof off. There is nothing interesting about this movie. WTF critics! I'm pissed that I watched this.
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