Twin Peaks

[Qrazy]

Spoilers, please, Q. Obviously lots here who haven't seen the series.

My bad, sorry about that.

[Spinal]

I think after another 25 years, we can just not worry about spoiler tags.

[Grouchy]

No, it sucks. [

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Agent Cooper going to the Lodge is good. The very end with him banging his head on the glass is fucking stupid. It's Lynch at his laziest thematically pontificating about how even the best of us are susceptible to the demons within.

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Bob is an evil spirit. He possesses people. I don't find anything "pontificating" about that.

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[Russ]

I think he was making what we humans call "a joke".

Hence my deleted post [/slow on the draw]

[Melville]

The last episode is a big step up from all the crap episodes preceding it, but it's not great. [

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The haphazard killing-off of characters felt like a 'fuck you' to the show, the way Annie disappeared felt awkwardly contrived—why would Cooper and the police not do something to cancel the beauty pageant when they knew Windom Earle was going to attack there?—and the possession/doppelganger of Cooper doesn't work for me. Bob is compelling so long as he operates simultaneously as an evil spirit and as an abstract symbol of the capacity for evil; the death of Laura Palmer is interesting and tragic because it's a murky mix of freaky metaphysics and real sexual abuse of a daughter by a father. But Cooper is basically devoid of ethical flaws, and he only ends up possessed because he sacrifices himself for the woman he loves. While it feels like it should have the meaning Qrazy ascribes to it, that meaning doesn't work with Cooper's character or how his possession occurs.

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[Melville]

Since this will be on Showtime, obviously there will be no restraints on adult content. I'm wondering if it will be closer in tone to the movie than the original series.

I hope so. Great movie. Great show too, but the best episodes (e.g., the pilot and "Lonely Souls") were closer in tone to the movie than they were to a lot of the show's other episodes.

[quido8_5]

The last episode is a big step up from all the crap episodes preceding it, but it's not great. [

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The haphazard killing-off of characters felt like a 'fuck you' to the show, the way Annie disappeared felt awkwardly contrived—why would Cooper and the police not do something to cancel the beauty pageant when they knew Windom Earle was going to attack there?—and the possession/doppelganger of Cooper doesn't work for me. Bob is compelling so long as he operates simultaneously as an evil spirit and as an abstract symbol of the capacity for evil; the death of Laura Palmer is interesting and tragic because it's a murky mix of freaky metaphysics and real sexual abuse of a daughter by a father. But Cooper is basically devoid of ethical flaws, and he only ends up possessed because he sacrifices himself for the woman he loves. While it feels like it should have the meaning Qrazy ascribes to it, that meaning doesn't work with Cooper's character or how his possession occurs.

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I find Cooper more in the vein of a Levin or Alyosha type hero who is utterly pure only because he's willing to acknowledge absolute evil. The fact that, at least currently, evil doesn't win and Cooper is now (we must assume) causing nothing but either pure good or pure evil. For instance, the seeming shark-jump of the beauty pageant makes total since, in that Cooper is trying to prevent good but certainly not down with changing fate. The pageant has to happen for political reasons, but more importantly for spiritual-warfare purposes.

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[Qrazy]

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Bob is an evil spirit. He possesses people. I don't find anything "pontificating" about that.

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It just did not strike me as a satisfying conclusion to everything that came before.

[quido8_5]

It just did not strike me as a satisfying conclusion to everything that came before.

Oh, it's certainly not satisfying. It's so unsatisfying that people have been searching out satisfaction for almost exactly a quarter of a century.

[Grouchy]

Oh, it's certainly not satisfying. It's so unsatisfying that people have been searching out satisfaction for almost exact a quarter of a century.

Pretty much, yeah.

My take on it is that the show had already jumped the shark. It was beyond saving. What I love about the final episode is how it creates a thousand more mysteries instead of actually solving the plot threads.

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And let's not even talk about Josie ending up stuck inside of a door handle...

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[quido8_5]

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And let's not even talk about Josie ending up stuck inside of a door handle...

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Yeah. There's no way that's a satisfying afterlife.

[Grouchy]

Yeah. There's no way that's a satisfying afterlife.

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It would be beyond awesome if she came out of the fucking door knob 25 years later, first scene of the first episode.

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[MadMan]

I loved both the show and the movie. I'm finally now wondering how the new series will turn out after spending weeks going "Holy shit yes Twin Peaks is coming back fuck yeah awesome!"

[Spinal]

This interview with Sherilyn Fenn was published several months ago, but it contains some neat trivia that I had never heard before. She says that the germ of an idea for Mulholland Dr. started as an intended spin-off for Audrey Horne. Also, she says that Heather Graham and Billy Zane were added to the cast because Lara Flynn Boyle, who was dating Kyle MacLachlan, was getting jealous of her screen time with Agent Cooper.

[D_Davis]

I think after another 25 years, we can just not worry about spoiler tags.

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Not on the Internet.

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[Spinal]

I've been rewatching this in the past week. I'm up through the reveal of Laura's killer. And I have to admit that I'm not really a fan of one of the show's most iconic characters: The Log Lady. There are so many of Lynch's eccentricities that feel completely organic to me. Dancing midget ... no problem. Prophetic giant ... totally on board. Malicious force of evil named Bob ... makes sense to me.

But there's something about the way the Log Lady is written (or maybe performed) that doesn't ring true to me. It feels like a place where Lynch is actually guilty of some of the unfocused strangeness of which he is often accused.

I had also forgotten how Miguel Ferrer owns every scene he's in. The show could have used some more Albert.

My head's been spinning trying to think of where they'll take the show next.

[Spinal]

Anyways, so my idea is that Lynch should do a show on HBO (or Showtime).

Heh. Nice call.

[Spinal]

I would love to see Lynch and Frost bring back both Lara Flynn Boyle and Moira Kelly to play Donna Hayward and then find a way to rationalize it in their universe. Make one the shadow self of the other or something.

[number8]

Oy. David Lynch has left the project. They're trying to decide if they'll even do the revival now.

http://www.businessinsider.com/repor...howtime-2015-4

[EyesWideOpen]

Showtime is saying they are still in negotiations. Sounds like a power play by Lynch to get more money.

[Russ]

!!!

The forthcoming third season revival of Twin Peaks on Showtime will now feature 18 episodes, all directed by David Lynch, reports Welcome to Twin Peaks.

Series stars Sherilyn Fenn and Sheryl Lee reportedly revealed the information during a Twin Peaks panel at Crypticon in Seattle this weekend, according to various sources.

Lynch, who co-created the series and directed a number of episodes including the pilot and Season Two (then series) finale, will co-write the episodes with Mark Frost, his co-creator, who will write a companion book set during the missing two decades-plus between seasons.

Original series composer Angelo Badalamenti will reportedly compose new music for the series, and Twede’s Cafe in North Bend, Washington, will be restored as the original Double R Diner set.

The series had originally been expected to run for nine episodes, which would be directed by Lynch, with the possibility of more down the line if the series was successful. Lynch briefly walked away from the project when budgetary negotiations with Showtime broke down, but recently came back with an unspecified amount of additional work to do on the show.

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[Russ]

[Irish]

Showtime confirms Sherilyn Fenn will return

https://deadline.com/2016/01/twin-pe...me-1201678613/

[Yxklyx]

I think it was updated recently - imdb now shows a cast of 6 including Balthazar Getty (i.e the young lead from Lost Highway).