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    Poems and Poets

    I've been reading a lot of poetry lately. I'm curious to know, those of you who are interested in and/or know much about poems and poets:

    What are some of your favorite poems?
    " " " " " " poets?

    Recently, I've been much taken by Herbert and Donne and Eliot and Browning. I really like those English masters of meter, apparently. Browning's Last Duchess is way awesome:

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    I like poetry fairly well. I'm not an expert.

    The lesser-known poet I'm always trying to push is Wilfred Owen. Big fan. He died quite young in the trenches of WWI, and wrote mostly war poems, but they are amazing.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    A bit canonical, and likely due to my lack of exposure (I'm more of a prose man) but I've always been very much a Whitman guy.

    ...

    N the beach at night,
    Stands a child with her father,
    Watching the east, the autumn sky.

    Up through the darkness,
    While ravening clouds, the burial clouds, in black masses spreading,
    Lower sullen and fast athwart and down the sky,
    Amid a transparent clear belt of ether yet left in the east,
    Ascends large and calm the lord-star Jupiter,
    And nigh at hand, only a very little above,
    Swim the delicate sisters the Pleiades.

    From the beach the child holding the hand of her father,
    Those burial-clouds that lower victorious soon to devour all,
    Watching, silently weeps.

    Weep not, child,
    Weep not, my darling,
    With these kisses let me remove your tears,
    The ravening clouds shall not long be victorious,
    They shall not long possess the sky, they devour the stars only in apparition,
    Jupiter shall emerge, be patient, watch again another night, the Pleiades shall emerge,
    They are immortal, all those stars both silvery and golden shall shine out again,
    The great stars and the little ones shall shine out again, they endure,
    The vast immortal suns and the long-enduring pensive moons shall again shine.

    Then dearest child mournest thou only for Jupiter?
    Considerest thou alone the burial of the stars?

    Something there is,
    (With my lips soothing thee, adding I whisper,
    I give thee the first suggestion, the problem and indirection,)
    Something there is more immortal even than the stars,
    (Many the burials, many the days and nights, passing away,)
    Something that shall endure longer even than lustrous Jupiter
    Longer than sun or any revolving satellite,
    Or the radiant sisters the Pleiades.
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    I like Wendell Berry.



    The Peace of the Wild Things


    When despair grows in me
    and I wake in the middle of the night at the least sound
    in fear of what my life and my children's lives may be,
    I go and lie down where the wood drake
    rests in his beauty on the water, and the great heron feeds.
    I come into the peace of wild things
    who do not tax their lives with forethought
    of grief. I come into the presence of still water.
    And I feel above me the day-blind stars
    waiting for their light. For a time
    I rest in the grace of the world, and am free.

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    And some of the stuff from Clark Ashton Smith

    http://www.eldritchdark.com/writings/poetry/

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    Not too big on most poetry, but through my last couple years of high school, I did delve pretty far into a lot of the bigger names from the beat generation. A lot of it is oh so much silly and nonsensical wankery, but there are good ones, too. Allen Ginsberg was my favorite because his stuff always seemed relatively more urgent or purposeful and I dug that. Plus, he could be really funny. Actually, I'm using a gigantic paperback of collected Ginsberg poems right now as a mousepad

    I don't know if I have one favorite Ginsberg work, because this book I've got has hundreds and hundreds of them tucked away. Here's one I like, though...

    Night Gleam

    Over and over thru the dull material world the call is made
    over and over thru the dull material world I make the call
    O English folk, in Sussex night, thru black beech tree branches
    the full moon shone at three AM, I stood in underwear on the lawn -
    I saw a mustached English man I loved, with athlete's breast and farmer's
    arms,
    I lay in bead that night many loves beating in my heart
    sleepless hearing songs of generations electric returning intelligent memory
    to my frame, and so went to dwell again in my heart
    and worship the Lovers there, love's teachers, youths and poets who live
    forever
    in the secret heart, in the dark night, in the full moon, year after year
    over & over thru the dull material world the call is made.

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    About halfway through the 1st Canto of Don Juan by Lord Byron right now, and I'm enjoying it pretty well. It's very odd, as the tone veers from humorous to serious to satirical to achingly romantic all quite pell-mell. And the way he uses rhyme scheme and meter is funny, but sometimes can be almost aggravatingly rigid…
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    Quote Quoting monolith94 (view post)
    About halfway through the 1st Canto of Don Juan by Lord Byron right now, and I'm enjoying it pretty well. It's very odd, as the tone veers from humorous to serious to satirical to achingly romantic all quite pell-mell. And the way he uses rhyme scheme and meter is funny, but sometimes can be almost aggravatingly rigid…
    I was going to pick this up soon. Thanks for the perspective.

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    I tend to be most impressed with poets who can say powerful and profound things with common words. Among them, I consider poet Billy Collins to be without peer.

    I also am a huge fan of Russell Edson, on account of his poems being so batshit crazy. I have a book of his poems here with me at work, which I crack open when I need a smile put on my face.
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    Huge poetry fan here. I'll list some favorites when I have more time, but great idea for a thread.

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    Quote Quoting Mara (view post)
    I like poetry fairly well. I'm not an expert.

    The lesser-known poet I'm always trying to push is Wilfred Owen. Big fan. He died quite young in the trenches of WWI, and wrote mostly war poems, but they are amazing.
    Lesser known?!?! He's curriculum.

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    Quote Quoting SpaceOddity (view post)
    Lesser known?!?! He's curriculum.
    Not anywhere I ever went. I was taught one poem of his once, Dulce et Decorum Est, in college, and went and bought a book of his poetry based on that.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Quote Quoting bac0n (view post)
    I tend to be most impressed with poets who can say powerful and profound things with common words. Among them, I consider poet Billy Collins to be without peer.
    he's my favorite too. it's kinda nice when you can quote one still alive poet. he did give a speech and read his poem at my high school. very inspiring.
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    Many intro to lit courses include Owen on the syllabus, and "Dulce..." is in most anthologies. He's definitely one of my favorites. I also like Billy Collins' "Introduction to Poetry."

    A sampling of my favorites:

    "Root Cellar" -- Roethke
    "Living in Sin" -- Rich
    "Ballad of Birmingham" -- Randall
    "Those Winter Sundays" -- Hayden
    "To an Athlete Dying Young" -- A.E. Housman (He's probably my favorite.)
    "Funeral Blues" -- Auden
    "Ars Poetica" -- MacLeish
    "Aubade" -- Larkin
    "Traveling through the Dark" -- Stafford (tears me up every time)
    "Mid-Term Break" -- Heaney
    "Ex-Basketball Player" -- Updike (often paired with the Housman in anthologies)

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    The Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke is my favourite poetry collection, and maybe my favourite book.

    Also love Arthur Rimbaud and Wallace Stevens.

    David Berman (song writer of the now defunct Silver Jews) has a book of poetry called Actual Air that I think is pretty swell.

    Really dig Ginsberg, Leonard Cohen, and Coleridge's later stuff.
    Wishful thinking, perhaps; but that is just another possible definition of the featherless biped.

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    I haven't read a lot of poetry, but my favorite poems are The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam by E. Fitzgerald, The Hunting of the Snark by Lewis Carroll, and The Lovesong of J. Alfred Prufrock by T.S. Eliot. I also really like some of Baudelaire's stuff. Some of Keats', too, but only when read by Ben Whishaw.
    I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad?

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    Quote Quoting Duncan (view post)
    The Duino Elegies by Rainer Maria Rilke is my favourite poetry collection, and maybe my favourite book.
    My senior thesis compared/contrasted several translations of Rilke's Duino Elegies.

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    stein, gertrude

    dickinson, emily

    yeats, w.b.

    williams, william carlos

    RUMI

    others already mentioned (whitman)
    ‎The severed arm perfectly acquitted itself, because of the simplicity of its wishes and its total lack of doubt.

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    I really like "Home Burial" by Frost.
    "Modern weapons can defend freedom, civilization, and life only by annihilating them. Security in military language means the ability to do away with the Earth."
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    Quote Quoting Hugh_Grant (view post)
    My senior thesis compared/contrasted several translations of Rilke's Duino Elegies.
    Nice. I've read a couple translations in full, and various translations of a few of the elegies. Couldn't say which one I thought worked best though.
    Wishful thinking, perhaps; but that is just another possible definition of the featherless biped.

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    Edward Snow or David Young?

    Which is better?
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    I don't think anyone has mentioned Gerard Manley Hopkins, who is a bit of a favorite.

    Pied Beauty

    GLORY be to God for dappled things—
    For skies of couple-colour as a brinded cow;
    For rose-moles all in stipple upon trout that swim;
    Fresh-firecoal chestnut-falls; finches’ wings;
    Landscape plotted and pieced—fold, fallow, and plough;
    And all trades, their gear and tackle and trim.

    All things counter, original, spare, strange;
    Whatever is fickle, freckled (who knows how?)
    With swift, slow; sweet, sour; adazzle, dim;
    He fathers-forth whose beauty is past change:
    Praise him.

    ***

    This is the one I find myself most often quoting, though:

    Spring and Fall: To a Young Child

    Margaret, are you grieving
    Over Goldengrove unleaving?
    Leaves, like the things of man, you
    With your fresh thoughts care for, can you?
    Ah! as the heart grows older
    It will come to such sights colder
    By and by, nor spare a sigh
    Though worlds of wanwood leafmeal lie;
    And yet you will weep and know why.
    Now no matter, child, the name:
    Sorrow's springs are the same.
    Nor mouth had, no nor mind, expressed
    What heart heard of, ghost guessed:
    It is the blight man was born for,
    It is Margaret you mourn for.
    ...and the milk's in me.

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    Oh! Forgot Hopkins' "God's Grandeur."

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    Big fan of William Butler Yeats, T. S. Eliot, Robert Browning, Edgar Allan Poe. Clearly not an imaginative poetry reader, but maybe I can fix that.

    I'm reading and enjoying the Dhammapada. It's by this pretty cool guy, I don't know if anyone's heard of him...

    ...the BUDDHA.

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    For you film folk...

    Frank O'Hara - Ave Maria

    Mothers of America
    let your kids go to the movies
    get them out of the house so they won't
    know what you're up to
    it's true that fresh air is good for the body
    but what about the soul
    that grows in darkness, embossed by
    silvery images
    and when you grow old as grow old you
    must
    they won't hate you
    they won't criticize you they won't know
    they'll be in some glamorous
    country
    they first saw on a Saturday afternoon or
    playing hookey
    they may even be grateful to you
    for their first sexual experience
    which only cost you a quarter
    and didn't upset the peaceful
    home
    they will know where candy bars come
    from
    and gratuitous bags of popcorn
    as gratuitous as leaving the movie before
    it's over
    with a pleasant stranger whose apartment
    is in the Heaven on
    Earth Bldg
    near the Williamsburg Bridge
    oh mothers you will have made
    the little
    tykes
    so happy because if nobody does pick
    them up in the movies
    they won't know the difference
    and if somebody does it'll be
    sheer gravy
    and they'll have been truly entertained
    either way
    instead of hanging around the yard
    or up in their room hating you
    prematurely since you won't have done
    anything horribly mean
    yet
    except keeping them from life's darker joys
    it's unforgivable the latter
    so don't blame me if you won't take this
    advice
    and the family breaks up
    and your children grow old and blind in
    front of a TV set
    seeing
    movies you wouldn't let them see when
    they were young

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