Jurassic World Trilogy Discussion

[Skitch]

Danger 5 has Nazi dinosaurs, a chief with the head of a bald eagle, and a talking dog fluent in German. How can this place not give it the time of day?

Its been shit on every time I've mentioned it. There truly is no genre more subjective than comedy.

[Sycophant]

It's just coasting on nostalgia and tired memes. The exact problem with this is how much it seems to slot into what circulates as viral content.

[transmogrifier]

The 60 seconds I saw were not funny.

[Dukefrukem]

Better than I expected maybe. 71% RT

"Jurassic World" is pure, dumb, wall-to-wall fun. When they hand you your 3-D glasses, you can check your brain at the door and pick it up on your way out.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/jurassic_world/

[Irish]

Keep in mind that this is largely the same group of people who gave Thor: The Dark World a 69% rating.

[Sven]

"Check your brain at the door" is like high fructose corn syrup. You see that it's an ingredient, you're like "ehhhh..." but you get it anyway and then you immediately regret it.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Crash - 2004 - "A raw and unsettling morality piece on modern angst and urban disconnect, Crash examines the dangers of bigotry and xenophobia in the lives of interconnected Angelenos."

Attack of the Clones - 2002 - "Though it still suffers from an overabundance of exposition, the action quotient is upped considerably in Star Wars: Episode II - Attack of the Clones, which makes it an improvement over The Phantom Menace."

Yep, good old Tomatometer. Usually fair, but far from always.

Far From Always sounds like a Lifetime movie about cancer, and maybe a girl in it is nicknamed "Always."

[Henry Gale]

Why are we reviewing the consensus of binary-grade aggregated reviews of a movie we haven't seen?

I hope to agree with the 70% that think it's good but I wouldn't be surprised if I end up with the other 30, only disappointed. But I'll tell you the only way I'll know for sure! *Buys a ticket sometime*

EDIT: I mean, Crystal Skull has 78%, Me, Earl and the Dying Girl is holding onto 85%, and 93% of critics gave good reviews to American Hustle, but I think they sit at varying levels of worthless in my mind. But on the flip-side, Speed Racer, The Fountain, and a lot of perfectly dumb comedies all hover below the "Fresh" threshold, and they're as important to me as any movies.

[Dukefrukem]

Okay sorry for posting it Match Cut. Carry on.

[Sven]

I just hate "check your brain at the door" and can't believe people (critics, even) still bandy that one around.

[Spun Lepton]

Given the apologetic nature of many of the positive reviews, I'm going to pass on seeing ths in the theater.

[Grouchy]

Crystal Skull has 78%

Wow. Spielberg must have a hell of a PR team.

[Ezee E]

Wow. Spielberg must have a hell of a PR team.

They submitted their review at the a-bomb drop.

[Irish]

Sorry, Duke.

I have a pet peeve about RT. It seems like over the last 5-10 years, there's been serious grade inflation over there. Once they separated out "top critics" from the rest, the whole rotten/fresh system became useless.

Dark World, for instance, has a 65% fresh rating from everybody, but if you click over to top critics that drops down to 44% rotten. That's a helluva difference.

I used to think that anything over 75-80% was worth watching, but no more. Nowadays I don't trust RT unless the general consensus is above 90%.

[Irish]

Wow. Spielberg must have a hell of a PR team.

Given the freak out over Dark Knight, it'd be suicide to give any genre movie with an installed base a less than cheery review.

A lot of theses dudes are bottom feeders. They live and die by clicks and access. Both of those go away if you shit on big budget movies.

[Skitch]

Given the freak out over Dark Knight, it'd be suicide to give any genre movie with an installed base a less than cheery review.

A lot of theses dudes are bottom feeders. They live and die by clicks and access. Both of those go away if you shit on big budget movies.

I agree with this, but thats a short sighted and short term approach (by the critics). Those types should find themselves weeded down with time as the real critics (the steady reasonable voices) achieve longevity.

I guess I'm not really contributing to youre overall conversation, but yeah, slow and steady wins out imo. When level-headed folks like Chris Stuckmann are growing in popularity it really really gives me hope.

[Dukefrukem]

Sorry, Duke.

I have a pet peeve about RT. It seems like over the last 5-10 years, there's been serious grade inflation over there. Once they separated out "top critics" from the rest, the whole rotten/fresh system became useless.

Dark World, for instance, has a 65% fresh rating from everybody, but if you click over to top critics that drops down to 44% rotten. That's a helluva difference.

I used to think that anything over 75-80% was worth watching, but no more. Nowadays I don't trust RT unless the general consensus is above 90%.

That's fine, I'm just wondering why everyone here made such a big deal about the Mad Max score then...

[Winston*]

I thought everyone switched to metacritic years ago? It's on 57% there...

[Dead & Messed Up]

That's fine, I'm just wondering why everyone here made such a big deal about the Mad Max score then...

I think mostly because it was so uncommonly high among both casual reviewers and "top critics." I can't remember such a high score for a populist movie since maybe Toy Story 3.

[Dukefrukem]

I think mostly because it was so uncommonly high among both casual reviewers and "top critics." I can't remember such a high score for a populist movie since maybe Toy Story 3.

But who cares how high it is right? It's RT. It's inflated.

Can't have it both ways.... you're either using it as a scale or you're not. Pick one.

[Sycophant]

Everyone

[Dukefrukem]

Hold on, I thnk Sycophant has a thought he wants to share. Let's all wait until his finishes his PBR.

[Dead & Messed Up]

But who cares how high it is right? It's RT. It's inflated.

Can't have it both ways....

Sure you can. Nobody's saying the Tomatometer is without value, only that it often needs to be taken with a big grain of salt.

[Dukefrukem]

Doesn't make any sense but whatever...62% now. It will be rotten before the weekend is over.

[number8]

I don't mind the Tomatometer. However we want to think of the critics they allow to contribute to it, they are still part of the larger critical consensus that are referred to when we're talking about a movie's critical reception. It's not necessarily a worthy gauge for how good a movie is, but it's a good one to parse out what's going to become a significant part of the conversation about current cinema. That's why it's most worth talking about for movies that are 90% and above, or 20% and below. Anything around 30%-80% are just movies that exist.

Irish is right, though, that separating "Top Critics" is kind of dumb. I don't even know how that's useful to anybody.