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    Jesus, Irish. Do you even try to think when you post?
    Whoa, Wats, what the fuck? I asked a question in good faith, because I couldn't think of examples and you've seen a shit ton more Disney stuff than I have. What the fuck is wrong with you?

    You're right about Coulson; I forgot about that (probably because on a larger scale they wasted no time bringing him back from the dead).

    I do think there's a huge difference between bloodless violence (eg: Coulson, Darth Maul, off screen events, etc) and actual violence where you see consequences (the arm on the floor in Star Wars, blood in the snow in Bambi, etc).

    A lot of the the things you see in Marvel pics and later Star Wars films would fit right into a Saturday morning cartoon. That's not what I'd call dark, especially when you surround those events with slapstick characters, one liners, and visual gags to take the edge off.

    Looked at from that angle, the Mos Eisley scene in Star Wars is actually kind of fucked up. I'm not surprised that Lucas changed it, because it's far too cynical and dark compared to the rest of the film and especially the rest of the series.

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    I would argue pretty strongly that the presence of blood does not make violence dark(er).
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    I don't really find the Mos Eisley scene to be all that dark. But then again I've been watching a lot of horror movies over the past four years.
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    About as dark as the Brave Little Toaster. Most of them are glorified muppets.

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    Give Brave Little Toaster more credit, it's way darker than Star Wars.
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    I agree, but it's also not a Disney film.

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    I like that Obi-Wan cuts a man's arm off and nobody blinks an eye.

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    Well it was a hive of scum and villainy.

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    The new rumours speak to the themes of this thread as of late. Apparently, following Ford's injury, Kennedy and Abrams want to delay the release date by five months. This would allow them to honour the original script, especially as it pertains to Han Solo, but it might also hinder Disney's pecuniary interests. Here's a snippet from the Slash Film report:

    On the other hand, Disney’s insistence in keeping the release date makes more sense. They didn’t buy Star Wars just to make movies. They bought it for everything else. Movies allow Disney to make even more money on merchandise, licensing, theme parks etc, and a December release date is the best time for that. It’s the holidays, so sales on everything from action figures to Happy Meals go through the roof. Kids and adults alike are off from school and work so they go to the movies and box office receipts are higher. Plus, there’s less competition into the new year. A May release has a ton of competition for the next three months. A December release has almost none.

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    Oh, wow. The comments on that article make my head hurt.

    Changing the release date would be a logistical nightmare. It'd cause a domino effect across all of Marvel's properties and totally screw with Disney's merchandising and licensing partners. Not to mention the loss of revenue for their first quarter, 2016.

    Also, this --

    Latino Review wrote about the butting of heads between Abrams, Kennedy and Disney CEO Bob Iger. According to their sources, Iger denied a request to move the release date into May.
    -- made me laugh out loud.

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    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    One of the hilarious/frustrating things about being outside of all this discussion is observing people talk themselves into believing that Rian Johnson's involvement will somehow make the films better.

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    Quote Quoting Sven (view post)
    One of the hilarious/frustrating things about being outside of all this discussion is observing people talk themselves into believing that Rian Johnson's involvement will somehow make the films better.
    If he's involved in the writing, why is that a ridiculous assumption? He's a great writer.

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    http://www.avforums.com/news/origina...gy-in-4k.10513

    Reliance Media Works, who were previously called Lowry Digital and worked on the earlier DVD and Blu-ray releases of the Star Wars films, as well as the original Indiana Jones movies, have announced on their website that they recently finished a 4K/16-bit restoration of the original Star Wars trilogy.
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    So the Matrix was used to drive DVD.
    The Dark Knight was used to drive Blu-ray
    Star Wars will be used to drive 4K.

    Anyone here even have a 4K TV yet?
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    They're like $1500 more than a 1080p TV. Way too expensive right now.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    So the Matrix was used to drive DVD.
    The Dark Knight was used to drive Blu-ray
    Star Wars will be used to drive 4K.

    Anyone here even have a 4K TV yet?
    No, not yet...but my 85-year old grandmother does. :lol:
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    BadassDigest claims to have some story spoilers:
    http://badassdigest.com/2014/07/20/e...ails-revealed/
    http://badassdigest.com/2014/07/20/s...-character-is/

    Fairly vague stuff that I assume would be revealed in a trailer.

    If true, this seems interesting enough.
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    Sounds like a dumb echo of A New Hope, but [
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    I've got a bad feeling about this master.
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    Luke's lightsaber hand is robotic.
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    Quote Quoting number8 (view post)
    Luke's lightsaber hand is robotic.
    Correct. Forgot about it.
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    Hopefully it just starts off in the desert with the discovery of the hand.

    The image of a hand holding a lightsaber floating in space just sounds funny to me.

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