Buffy the Vampire Slayer

[Glass Co.]

Just found an amusing tidbit, with some spoilers for season 3:

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Harry Groener, who plays the Mayor and is my favorite Buffyverse villain, and this to say about his character: "I think in his actual political life, he's a good mayor. He's probably a fairly conservative politician, a very conservative Democrat or a very liberal Republican. He likes to keep things clean. He likes things to be neat. He doesn't like a lot of clutter, so I imagine he likes to keep his town that way. It's only this other thing which makes him a little weird. Other than that he's a fairly standard mayor."

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That's fantastic. The Mayor is possibly one of my top five favourite characters on the show. Fantastic writing and performance. This quote shows how accurately Groener had it down pat.

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[Mara]

Welcome!

[Mara]

Just popped "Restless" in while I was doing some busy work in my room for background, and HOLY CRAP they foreshadow sooooo much that happens in the next season or two.

[Glass Co.]

Welcome!

Hi Mara!

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This is TIP from Icine btw. Now that I'm beginning to explore more films I feel more suited to this board and its discussions. Or at least I will be soon. :|

Restless is sublime. Lynch-inspired most definitely, which I didn't really know the first time seeing it. It still holds up though despite that.

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[Mara]

Oh, hey, Tippy! The film discussion on this board is superb. You'll love it.

[Lucky]

Welcome, Tippy. Been awhile.

[ledfloyd]

Good enough that I'm committed to the show through at least season three.

by then you'll be committed until the end.

i'm considering picking up the complete series set and giving this a much needed rewatch.

[Mara]

I've been leapfrogging to my favorite episodes, and after watching "Hush," I've decided one of the major differences in quality between the first couple of seasons and the rest is the MUSIC. They really got some beautiful orchestrations for the latter seasons.

[Lucky]

Definitely. Buffy & Angel's love theme "Close Your Eyes", the piece at the end of "The Gift", and the epic theme during the finale are all favorite of mine.

[Mara]

the piece at the end of "The Gift"

Makes me cry.

:sad:

[Lucky]

The Final Fight from "Chosen" (No spoilers - just music)

The beginning borrows heavily from LOTR's score, but the theme at 1:10 is awesome. I also like the orchestral interpretation of the opening credits theme song at the end.

[Glass Co.]

Lucky! Good to see another familar face.

The same composer did the all three of the mentioned pieces right?

[Mara]

The same composer did the all three of the mentioned pieces right?

Possibly-- I'm actually someone who rarely notices a score. So the fact that I recognize the music from Buffy says something.

For good measure, here is the suite from "The Gift." It's called Sacrifice. No spoilers, just music.

[Mara]

Chop chop, Mrs. KF.

[thefourthwall]

nya took me some warmup time, but she became one of my absolute favorite characters. She was also one of the most well-written characters on the show.

Yes. She's probably in the top five characters with the biggest personality growth/change.

Others:
1. Spike
2. Wesley Wyndam-Pryce
3. Cordelia
4. Anya
5. Angel

(I am of course including Angel in these.)

No "The Body"? I'm astonished. That's my number 1. And I'm not a huge fan of "The Pack." Other than that, excellent picks.

Yeah, that was a list I made to give to dreamdead so he would know which ones to pay particular attention to as he watched. I tried to stay away from the canonically different ones, which stand out on there own. Plus, while "The Body" is good, it's too heavy to watch over and over, so that may have also been why I didn't include it.

I don't know that I can rank the seasons. It's like asking people to choose their favorite children--they're each special in their own way.

[Mara]

During my leapfrogging of the seasons, I've stumbled across something troubling that I don't think I've seen discussed on any Buffy boards.

During late season 4 / early season 5 Buffy seemed to go through a tragic phase of particularly unfortunate pants.

Television seems to be a mostly waist-an-up medium, so I apologize for the quality of these screencaps:


"Where the Wild Things Are"-- serviceable, bulky gray sweater: okay. Slick reptile-print pants: horrible.


"The Replacement": possibly Buffy's ugliest-ever clothes. The striped, glittery halter-top sweater ain't pretty, the non-glittery bathrope-type sweater clashes badly, and the tie-dyed brown pants are nightmare-inducing. It's like the world's worst Laundry Day.


And in "Buffy vs. Dracula," Buffy wears the same pair of unflattering, shiny plastic pants in red....


...and pink.

What is Joss trying to tell us? Something about modern feminity and the nature of heroism/myth? Or, possibly, that women make really bad choices from the waist down? (Hee hee hee.)

[thefourthwall]

Wow. That is so spot on. Although, I can kind of dig the red ones.

[Mara]

Wow. That is so spot on. Although, I can kind of dig the red ones.

HAHAHAAHAHA YOUR AVATAR HAS THE FUNNY SYPHILIS.

And the red pants make Buffy look bottom-heavy, which is just crazy. She's so petite.

[Lucky]

Wow. That is so spot on. Although, I can kind of dig the red ones.

Me too. Pink ones I'll give you Mara. Didn't Buffy wear those red pants during the epic fight in grad day pt 1?

[Mara]

Didn't Buffy wear those red pants during the epic fight in grad day pt 1?

Hm... looks like she wore some version of red pants during that scene. I think they were less shiny.



But those pants were hot. Or, maybe, that scene was just hot.

[Lucky]

Buffy has some awesomely bad pants in the season premiere of Season 2, too. I just watched it the other night. Hopefully I can find a screenshot, it's literally the pantstyle my grandma wears.

[Lucky]

Success! ...except I don't know how to post as an image.

Any higher and those pants could double as a bra.

[ledfloyd]

i like the red pants.

[Mara]

Buffy has some awesomely bad pants in the season premiere of Season 2, too. I just watched it the other night. Hopefully I can find a screenshot, it's literally the pantstyle my grandma wears.

I'm not usually someone who, when you mention an episode, I immediately remember what Buffy was wearing, but for me "When She Was Bad" is very deeply connected with the red-brown dress she wears for her sexy dance.

But, yes, those are powerful bad pants.

[Mara]

This leads into an interesting question for me: WHY IS BUFFY SO COLD? She seriously wears sweaters, overcoats and knit caps waaaaaaay too often for someone who lives in Southern California.

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And, it must be said, you wouldn't think someone with that much aversion to cold would spend so much time boinking the room-temperature undead.

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Look: What Buffy thinks is appropriate attire for the desert in the middle of the day: