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    I'm starting to think people should be optimistic about Iran's new president. Check out these tweets of his. He seems to be someone who understands why oppressing women, censoring the internet and stifling dissent is not the way to better your country. He's going to hold firm on their nuclear program, but he'll be up for talks granted Obama doesn't sign on for any stronger sanctions like congress seems to want him to do.
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    Isn't the Iranian president ultimately subservient to the ayatollah?

    Also, I love you B-side, but "Check out these tweets" made me laugh out loud. I think just because I'm imagining a couple years from now, everything's gone to pot, and we're all like, "Man, he did not deliver on his tweets."

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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    Isn't the Iranian president ultimately subservient to the ayatollah?

    Also, I love you B-side, but "Check out these tweets" made me laugh out loud. I think just because I'm imagining a couple years from now, everything's gone to pot, and we're all like, "Man, he did not deliver on his tweets."
    On the nuclear issue, the ayatollah has final say, but he's already endorsed him, so it's clear the two are on good terms. The ayatollah hand-picked the four candidates who were allowed to run, and Rouhani was the most moderate among them, and he won handily. The president takes care of most things, but Khamenei has final say on the nuclear program and likely has input elsewhere.

    The tweets are important because Iran has been known to block access to social media around elections, and otherwise restrict access, and Rouhani used it as a platform just as any major figure would, making it a symbolic gesture toward youth if nothing else.
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    So I was bored and I randomly searched for the old election threads (plus I realized that its almost been a year since I was temp banned, and I wanted to look at what prompted that since I already forgot) and I found that site with the political quiz that gives who you should consider voting for, or whatever. I decided to retake it again and the results for party were surprising to me. Mostly because I guess my positions have changed so much since not only 2012, but also since I was in high school even.

    http://www.isidewith.com/results/283662342

    86% Democrats, 84% Green Party, 70% Socialist, 31% Libertarian, 3% Republican. I wonder if my answers on gun control and a few others had me tripping into hippie territory heh, although it also explains why I hate the GOP so much right now. Also some of the answers for the libertarians and the socialists didn't quite sound like positions I would expect them to take-maybe I don't know as much about those parties as I previously thought I did.
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    55% Green Party now, lol.

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    That's about right.

    Democrats 75%
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    Whitey Bulger was found guilty of racketeering and at least 11 murders. So that's pretty good.

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    You may already know about secure email providers Lavabit and Silent Circle voluntarily closing shop instead of being forced to cooperate with what is assumed to have been a National Security Letter.

    http://lavabit.com
    My Fellow Users,

    I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit. After significant soul searching, I have decided to suspend operations. I wish that I could legally share with you the events that led to my decision. I cannot. I feel you deserve to know what’s going on--the first amendment is supposed to guarantee me the freedom to speak out in situations like this. Unfortunately, Congress has passed laws that say otherwise. As things currently stand, I cannot share my experiences over the last six weeks, even though I have twice made the appropriate requests.

    What’s going to happen now? We’ve already started preparing the paperwork needed to continue to fight for the Constitution in the Fourth Circuit Court of Appeals. A favorable decision would allow me resurrect Lavabit as an American company.

    This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a company with physical ties to the United States.

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    e: Also, James Clapper will now be in charge of reviewing the programs he lied to Congress about and reporting back to the president on them. You know, instead of being arrested.

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    From L.A. To San Fran in 30 minutes, but not by plane (or car for that matter)? Say hello to the Hyperloop, a project by Elon Musk, founder of Tesla motors.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/12/op...iref=allsearch
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    Quote Quoting Morris Schæffer (view post)
    From L.A. To San Fran in 30 minutes, but not by plane (or car for that matter)? Say hello to the Hyperloop, a project by Elon Musk, founder of Tesla motors.

    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/12/op...iref=allsearch
    So, uh, how long until this can truly happen? Does it need a kickstarter? heh.

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    It will never happen. $8-10 billion to build a prototype but most likely more when the project runs over budget.

    Total cost is estimated at: $68.4 billion.

    It will die a slow slow death just like the Mav Lev Project.

    California is doomed. Get out now.

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    This in conjunction with the news on Monday that Stop and Frisk was being subjected to judicial reform certainly made me a happy camper. It's like I woke up in bizarro America where people's rights were suddenly respected and those who suffered from addiction were treated with dignity and compassion.

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)

    California is doomed. Get out now.
    I'm kind of liking it right now, thanks though!

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    Total cost is estimated at: $68.4 billion.

    Where do you see this figure? $68 billion is the estimated cost of the already-planned high-speed rail that Musk has been bashing and why he is so gung-ho for this new method which he currently claims would be a lot, lot cheaper and also the technology is much faster than the high-speed rail.

    I also don't think the $10 billion is just for a prototype, but Musk's estimation for the whole Hyperloop project. Not even 100% sure where $10 billion comes from, since Musk's own proposal shows between $6 billion and $7.5 billion.

    You can read the whole thing here, if you are so inclined: http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/def...loop-alpha.pdf
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    Think Obama should update his "A Vision for High Speed Rail" yet?

    http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/09/04...gh-Speed-Rail/

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    Quote Quoting Robby P (view post)
    This in conjunction with the news on Monday that Stop and Frisk was being subjected to judicial reform certainly made me a happy camper. It's like I woke up in bizarro America where people's rights were suddenly respected and those who suffered from addiction were treated with dignity and compassion.
    Its good news amongst the continuing depressing fact that the government is still spying on us. I'll take what I can get sadly at this point.
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    Quote Quoting Raiders (view post)
    Where do you see this figure? $68 billion is the estimated cost of the already-planned high-speed rail that Musk has been bashing and why he is so gung-ho for this new method which he currently claims would be a lot, lot cheaper and also the technology is much faster than the high-speed rail.

    I also don't think the $10 billion is just for a prototype, but Musk's estimation for the whole Hyperloop project. Not even 100% sure where $10 billion comes from, since Musk's own proposal shows between $6 billion and $7.5 billion.

    You can read the whole thing here, if you are so inclined: http://www.teslamotors.com/sites/def...loop-alpha.pdf
    You're right the $10 billion isn't the prototype. It's just San Fran to LA. posting the whole article since it's not free to read.

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    Elon Musk's Hyperloop: San Francisco to Los Angeles in 30 Minutes?

    SAN FRANCISCO—Billionaire inventor Elon Musk unveiled plans Monday for what he has dubbed the Hyperloop, a futuristic solar-powered vehicle that promises to zip people between cities at near sonic speeds.

    Whether one ever gets built is a separate question.

    In a first draft of his plan posted online, 42-year-old Mr. Musk outlined how such a high-speed service could work. Unlike traditional trains, the Hyperloop would feature a tube suspended aboveground on top of pylons. Inside the tube, pods with electric compressor fans would move back and forth in a low pressure environment, gliding atop a cushion of air. Mr. Musk said he was interested in building a prototype.


    In layman's terms, Mr. Musk has described his designs as equal parts Concorde, rail gun and air hockey table. He estimates a California Hyperloop, which could travel between San Francisco and Los Angeles in 30 minutes, would cost about $6 billion to $10 billion to build.

    Mr. Musk, often called Silicon Valley's real-life version of superhero inventor Tony Stark, is known for tackling pie-in-the-sky ideas. After working at PayPal, the online payments pioneer, he founded electric car maker Tesla Motors Inc. TSLA -0.85% and Space Exploration Technologies Corp., or SpaceX, the first private company to dock at the international space station.

    Although Mr. Musk, who pulled all-nighters drafting the Hyperloop plan, said he didn't want to start another company, he said he was committed to the idea and willing to build a prototype. Mr. Musk said engineers from Tesla and SpaceX helped design the initial draft for the Hyperloop.

    "I'm somewhat tempted to make at least a demonstration prototype," said Mr. Musk during a conference call on Monday. "I've come around on my thinking here, maybe I could just do the beginning bit."

    He estimates that he could build a prototype in three to four years.

    Mr. Musk's plans call for a pair of steel tubes running side by side on elevated pylons. Inside the tubes, air compressors would create a low-pressure environment, though not a vacuum, which would be harder to maintain over long distances.

    Inside the tubes, capsules would be propelled forward by an electric induction motor, Mr. Musk said, an invention he said dated to the days of electricity pioneer Nikola Tesla. In his system, electric pulses travel the length of the tubes; a magnetized blade on the base of each pod would be propelled forward by the pulses of energy, which Mr. Musk said could come from solar panels on the tops of the tubes.

    Pods would travel at about 760 miles an hour. He said it is ideal for cities less than 900 miles apart; for further distances, supersonic planes are more efficient, he said.

    Some transportation experts have reacted with skepticism to the Hyperloop hype.

    "The possibility of this going mainstream is likely low due to the need for costly greenfield infrastructure," said Richard Barone, the director of transportation programs at the Regional Plan Association in New York. Similar concepts have emerged over recent decades, Mr. Barone said, citing examples including magnetic levitation trains.

    Technologies like high-speed versions of conventional train systems "tend to be more successful, because they build off or enhance existing infrastructure," Mr. Barone said in an email message. A technology like the hyperloop could also be a tough fit in a built-up region because of the need to locate the tubes and pylons, he said.

    In a conference call, Mr. Musk said the hyperloop would require significantly less right of way than a high-speed rail system in California that will soon begin construction—and cost less money.

    In a document depicting the system, Mr. Musk said the system could largely track the route of Interstate 5, traveling in the median to cut down on property acquisition costs. "This is designed to be super-light, and trains are extremely heavy," Mr. Musk said.

    The California High-Speed Rail Authority is at work on a planned 520-mile high speed train network linking San Francisco and Los Angeles. The network is projected to eventually grow to 800 miles, stretching from San Diego north to Sacramento by 2029.

    That network would move trains at speeds of more than 200 miles an hour, far faster than any other trains in operation in the U.S., and would move passengers from Los Angeles to the San Francisco Bay area in less than three hours, the authority says. But the project, at a projected $68.4 billion, would be one of the most expensive transportation infrastructure projects in the country's history, a Government Accountability Office report said in March.

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    Right, the LA to SF high-speed rail, a separate project backed by Obama but despised by many including Musk, is the $68.4 billion (that actually may be the entire 800-miles from San Diego to Sacramento, but still, it's steep). That's not the Hyperloop, which is being pitched by Musk at $6 to 7.5 billion. Big difference, and if he is anywhere close to the target on both the technology and the cost, it will be a very interesting next few years to see which concept wins. The issue is that with the Recovery Act funding and preparations underway, the rail has a big advantage. But, public opinion will matter and hopefully this can become very publicized nation-wide since whichever wins likely will be the one to expand to other key regions around the country.
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    As technology furthers, it'll get cheaper.

    This is going to happen within the next twenty years.

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    Quote Quoting Robby P (view post)
    This in conjunction with the news on Monday that Stop and Frisk was being subjected to judicial reform certainly made me a happy camper. It's like I woke up in bizarro America where people's rights were suddenly respected and those who suffered from addiction were treated with dignity and compassion.
    They're definitely welcome developments. And hopefully the Obama administration goes forth with making the NSA program more transparent, but I'm not terribly optimistic about that one.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    As technology furthers, it'll get cheaper.

    This is going to happen within the next twenty years.
    That's what people said about landing on Mars in 1998.

    Multiple it by 2 and maybe we'll be finally getting somewhere.

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    That's what people said about landing on Mars in 1998.

    Multiple it by 2 and maybe we'll be finally getting somewhere.
    Yeah, but the man already has the design, and it'll be something, ahem, valuable to everybody. He is aiming for 7-10 years. 2024? Seems possible to me.

    The Mars landing idea, I can't comment on at all, as it was something thought of many many years ago.

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    How the hell does going to Mars compare to building a high speed railway system? Terrible analogy there Duke.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    As technology furthers, it'll get cheaper.

    This is going to happen within the next twenty years.
    Wonder how the bathroom breaks are gonna work out. And I suppose that maybe you're allowed one backpack.
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