Revisiting Match Cut Directors Consensus - Steven Spielberg

[Pop Trash]

Whenever we inevitably get around to Roland Emmerich, I'm paying close attention to the overall rating for Independence Day and the one here for War of the Worlds. I swear if Emmerich's film is higher, I'm shutting this site down.

Because really, y'all are crazy.

I agree Independence Day is much worse, but...the ending dude...the ending.

[Bosco B Thug]

Whenever we inevitably get around to Roland Emmerich, I'm paying close attention to the overall rating for Independence Day and the one here for War of the Worlds. I swear if Emmerich's film is higher, I'm shutting this site down.

Because really, y'all are crazy.

3 for ID.

[Dead & Messed Up]

Whenever we inevitably get around to Roland Emmerich, I'm paying close attention to the overall rating for Independence Day and the one here for War of the Worlds. I swear if Emmerich's film is higher, I'm shutting this site down.

Because really, y'all are crazy.

Independence Day mostly succeeds on its chosen level of throwbacks, cliches, and good-natured stupidity. War of the Worlds has more ambition, but it fell short too frequently in my eyes. And while I normally support ambition over slumming, Worlds was just so...damn...aggravating.

[Raiders]

There's more humanity and grace in every freakin' frame of Spielberg's film than there is in all two-and-a-half hours of Emmerich's clunking monstrosity. No scene in cinema is as stomach-curdling to me as the one where we have a mass of humanity being destroyed but hey, thank God the fucking dog survived!

I'm not getting into this again over the ending and yada-yada-yada because I'm exhausted from the umpteen times it has been done before, but honestly, "succeeding on what it wants to do" isn't a defense when what the film wants to do is exterminate humanity as loud and mind-numbingly as possible. I expect something more than "good natured stupidity" from a film that puts so much at stake.

[Dead & Messed Up]

..."succeeding on what it wants to do" isn't a defense when what the film wants to do is exterminate humanity as loud and mind-numbingly as possible.

Why not?

[Raiders]

Why not?

Well, OK, it is a defense, but not one that I care to accept. Succeeding at being awful is no better than failing at your ambition in my mind, though we would of course disagree about WotW's failings.

[Qrazy]

Alright, this week I'll try to watch Always and Amistad.

[transmogrifier]

Alright, this week I'll try to watch Always and Amistad.

Whatever for?

[Qrazy]

Whatever for?

To complete the filmography.

[Ivan Drago]

Whenever we inevitably get around to Roland Emmerich, I'm paying close attention to the overall rating for Independence Day and the one here for War of the Worlds. I swear if Emmerich's film is higher, I'm shutting this site down.

Nah, just rename it Bizarro World.

And what's worse, the 4s for the Indy trilogy or having not seen the whole trilogy?

[thefourthwall]

Duel (1971) - 7.5
Jaws (1975) - 9
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) - 9.5
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) - 6.5
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) - 6
The Color Purple (1985) - 7.5
Empire of the Sun (1987) - 9
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) - 9
Hook (1991) - 5
Jurassic Park (1993) - 7.5
Saving Private Ryan (1998) - 8.5
Artificial Intelligence: AI (2001) - 7.5
Catch Me if You Can (2002) - 7.5
Minority Report (2002) - 8.0
Munich (2005) - 8.5
War of the Worlds (2005) - 5
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) - 5.5

[dreamdead]

It took way too long, but here you go Match-Cut... as always, feel free to update and let me know of the changes if you have new ratings you want added...

Results:
Schindler’s List – 8.8571 (28)
Jaws - 8.8167 (30)
Raiders of the Lost Ark – 8.7353 (34)
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8.1458 (24)
E.T. - 8.1296 (27)
Empire of the Sun – 7.9211 (19)
Sugarland Express – 7.75 (6)
Saving Private Ryan – 7.7222 (27)
AI: Artificial Intelligence – 7.7121 (33)
Munich – 7.7115 (26)
Minority Report – 7.5 (32)
Duel - 7.325 (20)
Jurassic Park – 7.3088 (34)
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade – 7.2833 (30)
Catch Me if You Can – 6.7833 (30)
The Color Purple – 6.3125 (16)
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom – 6 (29)
Amistad – 5.9583 (12)
War of the Worlds – 5.8125 (32)
The Terminal – 5.4118 (17)
Hook – 4.9772 (22)
1941 – 4.6 (5)
Jurassic Park: The Lost World – 4.5370 (27)
Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull – 4.5357 (28)
Always – 4.2857 (7)

Completist: Eleven

I've always wanted to see Hepburn's last film, but I don't think I'm gonna rush out given its ranking here...

[Peng]

Can't believe I miss this thread, along with Coens, Payne, and Hitchcock, on my first time searching for director consensus here, as I have them for chronological director projects in the past (year-long in the case of Spielberg and Hitchcock).

Anyway, here's mine for my favorite director.

Duel - 7.5
Something Evil - 5
The Sugarland Express - 8
Jaws - 10
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 10
1941 - 5.5
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - 10
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 7
The Color Purple - 7
Empire of the Sun - 7.5
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 7.5
Always - 6
Hook - 6
Jurassic Park - 9
Schindler's List - 10
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 7
Amistad - 7
Saving Private Ryan - 8
A.I. Artificial Intelligence - 8
Minority Report - 8.5
Catch Me If You Can - 8
The Terminal - 7
War of the Worlds - 8
Munich - 7.5
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 6.5
The Adventures of Tintin - 7
War Horse - 6
Lincoln - 8
Bridge of Spies - 7.5
The BFG - 6

Bonus: His Twilight Zone: The Movie part "Kick the Can" - 5.5

[StanleyK]

Duel - 7
The Sugarland Express - 8.5
Jaws - 10
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 8.5
1941 - 4
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 8.5
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - 8.5
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 4
The Color Purple - 5.5
Empire of the Sun - 8.5
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 5.5
Always - 4
Hook - 4
Jurassic Park - 10
Schindler's List - 10
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 4
Amistad - 5.5
Saving Private Ryan - 7
Artificial Intelligence: AI - 8.5
Minority Report - 7
Catch Me if You Can - 7
The Terminal - 4
War of the Worlds - 8.5
Munich - 7
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 4
The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn - 7
War Horse - 4
Lincoln - 5.5
Bridge of Spies - 7
The BFG - 7
The Post - 5.5
Ready Player One - 2.5



Amblin' - 5.5
Poltergeist - 7
Kick the Can (Twilight Zone: The Movie) - 2.5



I honestly don't think Spielberg will ever make a great movie again. He can still turn out some solid entertainment on occasion, but his glory days are long over. I kinda wish he'd retired on a high note after Munich.

[baby doll]

Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) [7]
E.T. The Extra-Terrestrial (1982) [8]
Schindler's List (1993) [8]
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) [10]
Minority Report (2002) [8]
Catch Me if You Can (2002) [6]
The Terminal (2004) [3]
War of the Worlds (2005) [5]
Munich (2005) [5]
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) [6]

Nine years later:

Duel (1971) spicy
The Sugarland Express (1974) mild
Jaws (1975) warm
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) warm
Schindler's List (1993) spicy
Saving Private Ryan (1998) cold
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) spicy
Minority Report (2002) warm
Catch Me if You Can (2002) mild
The Terminal (2004) frozen
War of the Worlds (2005) cold
Munich (2005) cold
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2008) cold
The Adventures of Tin Tin (2011) cold
War Horse (2011) cold

I'd need to revisit E.T., Always, Hook, Jurassic Park, The Lost World, and Amistad before I could give them a rating.

I just watched Jaws for the second time yesterday, and while you could make the case that, in terms of pure craftsmanship, it's likely Spielberg's best-directed film, it's so gruesome that I doubt it'll ever be a favourite of mine. (I know, the violence is more suggested than shown but the suggestion is more than enough for me.)

[Dead & Messed Up]

Duel - 8
Jaws - 9
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 10
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 10
E. T. - 9
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 9
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 9
Hook - 3
Jurassic Park - 7
Schindler's List - 9
The Lost World - 4
Saving Private Ryan - 9
A. I. Artificial Intelligence - 7
Minority Report - 9
Catch Me if You Can - 8
The Terminal - 8
War of the Worlds - 5
Munich - 9
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 5

Now:

Duel - A-
The Sugarland Express - B+
Jaws - A+
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - A-
Raiders - A+
E.T. - A+
"Kick the Can" - F
Temple of Doom - A-
Last Crusade - A-
Hook - D+
Jurassic Park - B+
Schindler's List - A-
The Lost World - C
Saving Private Ryan - B-
A.I. - B
Minority Report - B+
Catch Me if You Can - B+
The Terminal - B-
War of the Worlds - B-
Munich - B+
Crystal Skull - C+
The Adventures of TinTin - B+
Bridge of Spies - B
The Post - B
Ready Player One - C

[Dukefrukem]

Duel (1971) 8
Jaws (1975) 9.5
Close Encounters of the Third Kind (1977) 9.0
Raiders of the Lost Ark (1981) 9.0
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial (1982) 9.0
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom (1984) 7.5
The Color Purple (1985) 6
Empire of the Sun (1987) 8
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade (1989) 9.9
Hook (1991) 8
Jurassic Park (1993) 9.9
The Lost World: Jurassic Park (1997) 5.5
Saving Private Ryan (1998) 9.9
A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001) 1.5
Minority Report (2002) 8
War of the Worlds (2005) 5.5
Munich (2005) 8
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull (2007) 5

Oof

Now:

Duel - 7
Jaws - 10
Close Encounters of the Third Kind - 10
Raiders of the Lost Ark - 8.5
E.T. the Extra-Terrestrial - 10
Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom - 8
The Color Purple - 6
Empire of the Sun - 5
Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade - 10
Hook - 8
Jurassic Park - 10
Schindler's List - 8
The Lost World: Jurassic Park - 6
Saving Private Ryan - 9
Artificial Intelligence: AI - 3
Minority Report - 8
Catch Me if You Can - 8.5
The Terminal - 3
War of the Worlds - 4.5
Munich - 5
Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of the Crystal Skull - 5
The Adventures of Tintin: The Secret of the Unicorn - 8
War Horse - 4
Lincoln - 4.5
Bridge of Spies - 4
The BFG - 3
The Post - 4.5
Ready Player One - 4