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    Body Snatchers

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    The Princess and the Pilot - B-
    Playtime (rewatch) - A
    The Hobbit - C-
    The Comedy - D+
    Kings of the Road - C+
    The Odd Couple - B
    Red Rock West - C-
    The Hunger Games - D-
    Prometheus - C
    Tangled - C+

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Unbearable Lightness of Being sure has some masterful moments in the movie. Too bad they're all in the first hour of a three hour movie.
    I think the eroticism is largely also primarily in the first hour, if memory serves. Despite that being the key to its still-memorable filmmaking, I thought it blended some of the political urgency together pretty nicely in some of the black and white moments. The personal still takes precedence, but unlike something like Henry and June, this film does have a political consciousness. Plus, there was something strangely poetic about the ending, which circumvents realtime to deliver an emotional payoff that I don't would work any other way.

    Also, edited in The Right Stuff rating. I think I'm becoming a fan of Fred Ward's work. And Dennis Quaid here is remarkably magnetic, so young and vibrant. What Kaufman achieves with the balance of storytelling is quite remarkable; though he often seems better paced at dry comedy (the Shearer/Goldblum stuff in the first hour, or the atronauts greeting the press for the first time), the Yeager scenes have a serene quality, though it gets downright scary in the finale, even though my familiarity with the book should have hardened me to the dangers within. And though the women, unlike in Wolfe's text, are still short-shifted here, there are a few scenes that demonstrate their collective strength, even if Kaufman leaves unanswered why so many of them would choose to remain wed to philanderers. Quality third hour, and the strong ending, kept me hooked. Good stuff, though I fear I might not go further into his filmography (sorry Russ)....
    The Boat People - 9
    The Power of the Dog - 7.5
    The King of Pigs - 7

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    I think I'm becoming a fan of Fred Ward's work.
    Rep. One of the best supporting actors ever.

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    Rep. One of the best supporting actors ever.
    Beyond his feature role in Henry and June, and The Player/Bob Roberts, what else should I check out to see his range...?
    The Boat People - 9
    The Power of the Dog - 7.5
    The King of Pigs - 7

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    Beyond his feature role in Henry and June, and The Player/Bob Roberts, what else should I check out to see his range...?
    Tremors!

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    Rep. One of the best supporting actors ever.
    Not always supporting of course. He's great as the lead in one of the all-time great monster features, Tremors.
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    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
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    Quote Quoting dreamdead (view post)
    Beyond his feature role in Henry and June, and The Player/Bob Roberts, what else should I check out to see his range...?
    Well, when I praise him, it is not necessarily for his range. The guy was fairly typecast as the no-nonsense Southern captain characters pretty consistently from what I've seen of his. But that makes him no less impressive in my eyes. I've seen him in Henry and June. He's great. I've seen him in Tremors. He's great. I've seen him in Thunderheart. He's great. I've seen him in The Right Stuff. He's great. He always brings a knowing quality to his roles, a wry sense of performance that I'm sure someone with the right jargon could communicate better than I could. Negative criticism is ineffective against him and those of his ilk (Madeline Kahn, George Kennedy, JK Simmons, Catherine O'Hara, etc) because they are what they so unapologetically are.

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    Oh, and word to both of you for your Tremors hollas. That movie is so good.

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    I can't answer your first four questions, but I think I can explore this one.

    Sutherland's character wants to trust people. I think it's most apparent in one line. After Kevin McCarthy gets hit by a car, a police officer arrives on the scene, and Sutherland says, "The policeman will help." But the policeman doesn't help. The film takes a post-Watergate attitude that one should not trust authority figures, and illustrates its point through Sutherland, who wants to trust people and is consistently betrayed.

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    Ward is a lot of fun in Remo Williams.

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    Ward is a lot of fun in Remo Williams.
    Oh yeah, and this. So awesome.

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    The disparity in how long it takes for the pods to birth a Snatcher is terribly inconsistent as well. Just consider how long it takes a certain female character to be replicated late in the film as compared to various scenarios earlier in the picture.

    Also, I wonder if Mike D'Angelo didn't bring up a halfway-decent point on his twitter page recently, asking if the paranoia is so plausible or effective when the film is directed like an LSD-infused freakout from the very beginning, suggesting that the original approaches this angle in a superior fashion by sustaining the possibility that the invasion isn't actually occurring for a considerable stretch.

    Nevertheless, I prefer Kaufman's nightmarish vision of baroque expressionism and apocalyptic hopelessness to the original. In a way, it's almost like a sequel to the original, beginning where that one left off with the invasion already beginning to grip the city. My biggest gripe is that it drags unnecessarily during the middle act, so credit to the original for its economic storytelling.
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    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    The Unbearable Lightness of Being - 8.5
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    Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 8.5
    The Unbearable Lightness of Being - 7.0
    Letterboxd rating scale:
    The Long Riders (Hill) ***
    Furious 7 (Wan) **½
    Hard Times (Hill) ****½
    Another 48 Hrs. (Hill) ***
    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
    /Unknown/ (Collet-Serra) ***½
    Animal (Simmons) **

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    Quote Quoting Antoine (view post)
    I can't answer your first four questions, but I think I can explore this one.

    Sutherland's character wants to trust people. I think it's most apparent in one line. After Kevin McCarthy gets hit by a car, a police officer arrives on the scene, and Sutherland says, "The policeman will help." But the policeman doesn't help. The film takes a post-Watergate attitude that one should not trust authority figures, and illustrates its point through Sutherland, who wants to trust people and is consistently betrayed.
    I didn't really like his performance in the film in general. When he sees the pods being loaded into the boat he's just like... oh, bummer. I preferred Miles Bennell's gradual descent into total paranoia and terror.
    The Princess and the Pilot - B-
    Playtime (rewatch) - A
    The Hobbit - C-
    The Comedy - D+
    Kings of the Road - C+
    The Odd Couple - B
    Red Rock West - C-
    The Hunger Games - D-
    Prometheus - C
    Tangled - C+

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    RESULTS:
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    2. The Right Stuff - 8.33 (9)
    3. The Unbearable Lightness of Being - 7.22 ((9)
    4. Quills - 6.55 (10)

    DID NOT QUALIFY:
    Goldstein - 6 (1)
    The Wanderers - 7 (3)
    Henry & June - 5.16 (3)
    Rising Sun - 3.25 (2)

    = 7.64

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    Quote Quoting StanleyK (view post)
    The Right Stuff - 8.5

    I also saw the opening credits of Twisted. Ummm... 6?
    Invasion of the Body Snatchers - 8.5
    The Wanderers - 7
    The Right Stuff - 8.5
    The Unbearable Lightness of Being - 5.5
    Henry & June - 4
    Rising Sun - 4
    Quills - 5.5



    I have zero memory of ever having watched the opening credits of Twisted or why I would do such a thing. I think I'll skip it anyway.

    RIP Fred Ward. He was great in The Right Stuff.

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