Sangre, cuchillos, y tetas --- Horror Film Discussion

[megladon8]

What a misstep It Chapter 2 was.

Horrid CGI, bland visual design (disappointing after the first film was so visually rich), very bad schmaltz. Completely botched the ending, while also managing to miss the mark on 99% of the thematics that made the book so magical.

And holy God was that random "Richie is secretly gay" subplot mishandled to the point of being almost offensive. It MAYBE would have worked if the film took place in the time that the book did (ie, 30+ years ago), but having such a tone deaf gay subplot in a 2019 film taking place on 2019 was pretty bad.

[DFA1979]

I liked It Chapter 2 but I'm wondering if that is because it saw it on the big screen. I was disappointed that Chapter 2 had little to no scary parts, where as the first chapter managed to scare me quite a bit. I still think that they should have gone with the mini series route like the 1990 version, which has it's own faults but is still good.

[megladon8]

It felt similar to I Am Legend, in how it was an adaptation of the book in a superficial, name-only way.

It completely missed the mark in adapting the strongest and deepest themes of the book - friendship, nostalgia, unconditional love between childhood friends.

And the Richie subplot encapsulates everything they got wrong.

The entire point of the Losers Club was how they all loved each other, and had a connection deeper than even they could understand. That absolutely nothing could come between them, and they would all love each other forever, no matter how much time or distance separates them.

And yet, "oh no, I can't let them know I'm gay! They will all hate me forever!"

Garbage.

[Spun Lepton]

Blood Vessel on Shudder is pretty bland. You might think you could do something fun and unexpected with the idea of people finding vampires on-board an abandoned Nazi warship, but you'd be wrong in this case. There's no surprises at all, save for the black guy being the first to die once they're on board. Every story decision feels very safe and lazy. No cliche is too cliche. Every character does what you expect them to do and then dies when you expect them to die. The Big Bad vampire looks like a human-sized bipedal bat, while his wife is a sexy lady vampire with a weird nose. The Russian character drives the "I've been through worse," joke into the ground by the end. It does look very good. Good sound. Acting is solid for what he actors were given. Special effects are solid. A generous 5/10.

[Spun Lepton]

What a misstep It Chapter 2 was.

Horrid CGI, bland visual design (disappointing after the first film was so visually rich), very bad schmaltz. Completely botched the ending, while also managing to miss the mark on 99% of the thematics that made the book so magical.

And holy God was that random "Richie is secretly gay" subplot mishandled to the point of being almost offensive. It MAYBE would have worked if the film took place in the time that the book did (ie, 30+ years ago), but having such a tone deaf gay subplot in a 2019 film taking place on 2019 was pretty bad.

God, I fucking hate Chapter 2 with a burning passion. I was very excited for it, because I adored the first one. I dragged C and a couple friends to it and about half-way through I was whispering my apologies to all of them. I was done with the movie when Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" hit the soundtrack. It's such an epic misfire, it leads me to wonder how it could have possibly been done by the same creative team. Something happened. Somebody interfered somewhere.

[megladon8]

God, I fucking hate Chapter 2 with a burning passion. I was very excited for it, because I adored the first one. I dragged C and a couple friends to it and about half-way through I was whispering my apologies to all of them. I was done with the movie when Juice Newton's "Angel of the Morning" hit the soundtrack. It's such an epic misfire, it leads me to wonder how it could have possibly been done by the same creative team. Something happened. Somebody interfered somewhere.

First off I think it has a different cinematographer.

If I remember correctly, the movie (both parts) was originally supposed to be done by Cary Fukunaga. When he left the production, most of the original team stayed for part 1 and more or less carried out his vision with a different director in the chair. I think he still even has a credit in the first film.

But part 2 was all new production people.

[Dukefrukem]

Yeh Chapter 2 definitely missed the mark.

[Skitch]

It Chapter 2: The Movie Remake suffered from everything the first movie suffered from, and everything the book suffered from. Several thing in that story are just broken.

[megladon8]

I thought the book was perfect.

[Spun Lepton]

I spent a Summer reading IT in high school and I absolutely adored it. Ranks up there with The Shining as one of my favorite King books.

[Spun Lepton]

[Spun Lepton]

Looking forward to the Whispering Corridors trilogy, 1981 version of The Queen of Black Magic, and The Dark and the Wicked.

[megladon8]

Dredd was always one of my favorite horror movies. Same with Blade Runner.

[Skitch]

Momento Mori and The Ninth Configuration are fucking A class good movies.

[Skitch]

I spent a Summer reading IT in high school and I absolutely adored it. Ranks up there with The Shining as one of my favorite King books.

I read in high school too. I love it. I just don't think the second half is quite as good as first. Not saying its trash or anything, just not quite as strong.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Oooh, Possessor on Hulu.

[Spun Lepton]

Psycho Goreman - Silly from front to back. Struggles a bit with its climax. But, lots of good laughs. 8/10

[Spun Lepton]

Priest (2011) -- Nothing mind-blowing, but a fun, if forgettable ... sci-fi-horror-western-action movie. You could do worse if you're just looking to watch something that doesn't require a lot of attention. 7/10

[Dukefrukem]

Fun? Oh boy. One of the worst studio releases I've ever seen. Much worse than Legion.

[megladon8]

I remember finding it so weird that there was this random push to make Paul Bettany a bankable action star.

[Dukefrukem]

I remember finding it so weird that there was this random push to make Paul Bettany a bankable action star.

Me too. The stretch of movies almost killed his career. He talks about it too before Whedon approached him to become Vision, he was basically out of work.

https://www.insider.com/avengers-pau...-vision-2018-4

[Spun Lepton]

Fun? Oh boy. One of the worst studio releases I've ever seen. Much worse than Legion.

I had zero expectations going into it. What's so terrible about it? I admit, it's a silly movie, but it kept my attention and had a few fun action scenes.

Edit: The wire-fu seemed a bit of an odd choice, but given how many other genres are jammed into it ...

[Skitch]

I felt like Duke did the first round, but I recently rewatched it because it was playing on plutoTV and I didn't mind it. Some interesting ideas.

Mostly I kept thinking about how interviews I've seen with Bettany where he seems like a stuffy uptight theater actor, yet he did a bunch of stuff like this lol.

[DFA1979]

Rawhead Rex would be a good choice for a remake. I didn't hate it but it was definitely craptastic and often not in a good way. The main characters were likable which helped. I was surprised at how non gory a lot of it was. Even Nightbreed was more nasty than this flick.

[Wryan]

Wrong Turn remake. With Matthew Modine.



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