Sangre, cuchillos, y tetas --- Horror Film Discussion

**Morris Schæffer** · 01-31-2018, 06:24 AM

Quoting TGM (view post)

The bulk of it is, without a doubt.

Then there are two interpretations of horror in that horrific is not the same as horror in its cinematic guise. Since we are talking about movies here, Detroit is unquestionably drama for me.

**Grouchy** · 01-31-2018, 02:14 PM

If Detroit is a Horror movie so is stuff like Midnight Express or One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest and they are not.

**Ezee E** · 01-31-2018, 02:43 PM

Quoting Grouchy (view post)

If Detroit is a Horror movie so is stuff like Midnight Express or One Flew Over the Cukoo's Nest and they are not.

Detroit is practically a Straw Dogs approach with political commentary. Plenty have classified Straw Dogs as horror.

Trying to loop Midnight Express and Cuckoo's Nest in there makes no sense.

**Dukefrukem** · 01-31-2018, 02:45 PM

What about Green Room? That's considered horror. Isn't the tension in that film similar to Detroit? (haven't seen Detroit yet)

**Ezee E** · 01-31-2018, 02:49 PM

Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)

What about Green Room? That's considered horror. Isn't the tension in that film similar to Detroit? (haven't seen Detroit yet)

Another good comparison.

**Grouchy** · 01-31-2018, 04:32 PM

Ok, then maybe I should see Detroit before voicing my loud opinion.

**Ivan Drago** · 02-10-2018, 07:22 PM

I'd argue the entire second act of Detroit is its own horror movie.

**Morris Schæffer** · 02-10-2018, 10:10 PM

You guys still going at it?!

I always thought horror in the cinematic sense meant shit got explicit.

**Dead & Messed Up** · 02-10-2018, 10:50 PM

There's no useful definition of horror as a genre.

I'm raising my eyebrows at Detroit being considered in such a way, but I haven't seen the film.

**megladon8** · 02-10-2018, 11:32 PM

I haven’t seen Detroit either, but could it be the difference between a film being of the horror genre, and a film being “horrific”?

I find the Omaha Beach scene in Saving Private Ryan to be horrific, but I would never call it a horror film.

**TGM** · 02-11-2018, 12:03 AM

The stuff in SPR doesn't actually play like a horror film, though. The sequences in Detroit very much do.

**Ezee E** · 02-13-2018, 05:48 AM

The Ritual might be the first legit horror movie of the year. And it's on Netflix.

**transmogrifier** · 02-15-2018, 12:50 AM

Some recent horror viewings:

Happy Death Day- 47 - Doesn't take advantage of its concept at all, either narratively or in terms of characterization.
Scream 3 (rewatch) - 50 - Parker Posey and Courtney Cox make for an interesting pairing, but that is as far as it goes for this rather hollow meta-exercise. Incompetent slashers suffering pratfalls has run its course.
Raw - 55 - I rather liked the punchline at the end and the direction overall is suitably deranged, but Ducournau loses the thread of the characters at the halfway point and it becomes an exercise in arty gross outs.
Rare Exports: A Christmas Tale - 72 - A field of naked old men in the snow! Hilarious.
The Descent (rewatch) - 68 - Tense, direct, primal, but the whole marital affair backstory coming back up near the end weakens it.
Mom and Dad - 60 - Just an avalanche of things thrown at the screen (70s credits sequence? Why not?) but its the comedy and Selma Blair's performance that sticks. Weirdly abrupt ending, like they ran out of money.
Dead of Night - 64 - Amateur technical filmmaking competes with a genuine sense of dread and some unusually sympathetic victims
Black Christmas - 70 - Mines the skeeviness of the inexplicably of mental illness while also making a statement on the pervasiveness of misogyny. Again, Clark is able to generate some memorable side characters.

**D_Davis** · 02-15-2018, 01:11 AM

I think there needs to be a distinction between thriller and horror. For me, a horror film needs to be exploitative in some way, as a film, beyond its subject matter.

**Dead & Messed Up** · 02-15-2018, 01:27 AM

There's so much overlap anyway that I just don't stress. Wanna call Jaws a horror? Great. Thriller? Fine. I don't care if you put in the category of "ham sandwich" as long as you recognize it's good.

**Scar** · 02-15-2018, 02:32 AM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

The Ritual might be the first legit horror movie of the year. And it's on Netflix.

It certainly was decent.

**MadMan** · 02-15-2018, 07:33 AM

I rather liked Raw. It felt like a fine companion piece to Ginger Snaps.

**megladon8** · 02-16-2018, 10:30 PM

I haven’t seen Ginger Snaps in years. Always loved it. Jen isn’t much of a fan so we rarely watch it.

The second was fairly decent too.

Never saw the third.

**MadMan** · 02-18-2018, 06:26 AM

I have not bothered with any of the sequels.

**megladon8** · 03-04-2018, 04:53 PM

Veronica was quite good.

An original take on the possession formula.

**Morris Schæffer** · 06-04-2018, 09:13 PM

Well, they weren't cheap, but I really wanted to get the restored (blu-ray) editions of Dutch filmmaker Dick Maas' The Lift (remade by himself in 2001 with 'Down' with Naomi Watts) and Amsterdamned, especially because the new transfer really gives both an amazing new lease of life apparently.

**Morris Schæffer** · 07-01-2018, 02:53 PM

Just saw the French revenge movie 'Revenge'. If you like this sort of thing, don't miss it. Extremely visceral and gory, but stunning as well.

**megladon8** · 09-04-2018, 12:18 AM

Would anyone here be interested in a thread where I explore off-the-beaten-path interpretations of classic monsters?

**Dukefrukem** · 09-04-2018, 12:46 AM

Absolutely.

**Skitch** · 09-04-2018, 04:09 AM

Fuck yes.

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