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    You know what isn't half bad? Children of the Corn III: Urban Harvest. It's better than the lousy original, and it has effects work by Screaming Mad George!
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    It's always funny to me when sequels like that end up being better than the original. How many horror movies can say that? Hmm.
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    I enjoy Chiller TV's lists that they post. A recent good one is their collection of horror anthologies: http://www.chillertv.com/friday13/13...or-anthologies
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    Is anyone watching The Strain on F/X?

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    Number8 said it was craptacular. I think I read the first two books.
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    I hated Cujo.

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    I hated Cujo.
    Really? It's not great, but in the pantheon of King adaptations, it is among the best. Nicely efficient and sufficiently nasty.
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    Jack Arnold's Tarantula giant spider movie is not very good.
    It messed me up when I accidentally watched it aged, oh, around 10-11.
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    Really? It's not great, but in the pantheon of King adaptations, it is among the best. Nicely efficient and sufficiently nasty.
    It just did nothing for me and I hated all the characters. Maybe if my first viewing had been before 2014 I'd be more forgiving.

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    Warning: Some goober is making a prequel to THE SHINING.

    In the event that you hear prequel news, the best course is to place your hands over your ears, take cover under your desk, close your eyes and await further instruction.

    That is all. Good luck! And may we all remain ignorant of this "movie" for a long time to come.

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    Too quick to write it off. I'll wait to see how it all goes.

    I've been caught off guard many-a-time by remakes, sequels and prequels that should have been terrible.

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    Toss out some titles? I can think of, maybe, one or two.

    A Shining prequel just sounds ... So pointless.

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    I don't really trust prequels these days. I blame George Lucas.

    Also Cujo (1983) is freaky and near great. It made me scared of dogs and I love dogs.

    Right now I'm watching The Stand miniseries on Netflix. Its cheesy and they were forced to cut out large parts of the book but the cast is great and I'm still entertained.

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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    A Shining prequel just sounds ... So pointless.
    I would agree, but there is nothing to lose unless youre an investor. I do not believe other films affect a great film. If a sequel remake prequel sucks, meh, I have to original. Doesn't effect me one bit. And who knows, maybe its cool.

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    Watched some of Wolf Creek 2 today. The opening scene is full of wonderful tension, and later Mick is treated basically like a slasher villain. Fell asleep, but that wasn't a fault of the film, I was flat out exhausted. Should be able to revisit this weekend.
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    Quote Quoting Irish (view post)
    Toss out some titles? I can think of, maybe, one or two.

    A Shining prequel just sounds ... So pointless.

    This time last year I would have said a Shining sequel was pointless, but "Doctor Sleep" turned out great.

    Sequels/prequels/remakes that were great (off the top of my head, so it's all over the place):

    Solaris (2002 / Soderbergh) - one of my all time favorites, and actually better than Tarkovsky's original.

    28 Weeks Later (2007 / Fresnadillo) - better than Boyle's original; better cast, set pieces and thematics.

    Fright Night (2011 / Gillespie) - seriously astounded by how good this was, when every instinct I had when it was announced was "stay away!". Farrell is phenomenal as Jerry, and it modernizes the original film's themes of male sexual awakening.

    The Exorcist III (1990 / William Peter Blatty) - some (*cough*Raiders*cough*) see this as superior to the original. I don't go quite that far, but this is one underseen and undervalued horror flick if there ever was one. Seriously creepy, well acted, written and directed.

    Halloween and H2 (2007 / 2009 / Rob Zombie) - it took me some time to warm up to Zombie's vision in the first, but the second is flat out awesome. Imaginative, stylish. I loved that he avoided the "typical" Halloween sequel formula, right down to the torn mask and bearded Michael. It's probably the most original thing to come out of the series since Carpenter's original.

    Paranormal Activity 2 and 3 (2010 / 2011) - the first two sequels to the hit indie horror are surprisingly good. Introducing a few new tricks into the mix and developing actual lore for the Paranormal Activity universe, they were above being shameless cash-ins. It's more than I can say for the later sequels, but these first two were good stuff.

    True Grit (2010 / Coen Bros.) - better than the original.


    A couple of them are non-horror, but I tried to stay with mostly horror and fairly recent.

    Many (if not all) of the above should have, for all intents and purposes, been terrible. But they were great!
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    @Skitch - Largely, I agree. But I do think there is something to lose. Sequels carry an opportunity cost, both for the people involved and the fans.

    @Meg - My list would look a little different from yours. I don't have an issue with remakes as much as sequels. Sequels seem so creatively bankrupt. Prequels are mostly bullshit, the movie of last resort when the film's original ending doesn't allow for a direct sequel. I'm tired of producers of milkng increasingly outdated horror movies for material. I almost don't care if it's considered "good" by most. I mean, I got a kick out of The Evil Dead remake even though the movie itself is a trifle, totally forgettable, and largely meaningless. Culturally the entire genre seems permanently stuck in the 80s. That won't shift as long as fans keep flocking to see the same old same old over and over and over again.

    Also, anything around The Shining has a whole different set of problems, but I guess that's another discussion.

    PS -- guess I will also have to hunt down a copy of Exorcist III. You haven't steered me wrong yet!

    @Scar - Holy shit, you're killing me over here dude!!!

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I would agree, but there is nothing to lose unless youre an investor. I do not believe other films affect a great film. If a sequel remake prequel sucks, meh, I have to original. Doesn't effect me one bit. And who knows, maybe its cool.
    Yeah, every time I'm ready to completely write off the broad subset of "uninspired" or "pointless" horror-derivatives, something like last year's Maniac comes along and surprises me.

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    Get a copy of Exorcist III. Its a good little flick, not in the same league as the original, but still good.
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    I'm a fan of Zombie's Halloween movies as well. Loved the first one immediately. The second one took a couple viewings for me to appreciate, but I like it more than the first.
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    Wolf Creek 2

    A mixed bag of emotions / moods throughout the entire film. Two scenes stand out that are full of tension, while two scenes stand out as a tonal shift in the film where the music used treat the violence as light hearted. One had me just shaking my head, while the second resulted in a grin and a chuckle. Topped off with a tense dose of what some would call 'torture porn' near the end.

    Its worth checking out.

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    I assume one doesn't need to see Exorcist II (is there an Exorcist II? There must be) in order to understand III?

    I liked Zombie's Halloween, more or less. The first forty five minutes were brilliant and feel most like a Zombie film. At least he tried to approach the material from a different angle and deliver a new interpretation. The rest of it is much less interesting because it rigidly follows a template laid down by Carpenter (and every subsequent slasher film). It struck me as another Rob Zombie thing that was heavy on promise but didn't quite live up to its potential.

    @Scar - Nice! Thanks for the update. Compared to the original Wolf Creek, better or worse? Or more of the same? (I dunno why I'm hedging so much about this film, but I am).

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    Exorcist II is regarded as one of the worst sequels in the history of cinema. III does not acknowledge it.

    The first Wolf Creek is a better movie, while the second is more violent.

    Just watch the damn thing
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    Quote Quoting Scar (view post)
    Just watch the damn thing

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    If I had to prioritize, I'd say watch Exorcist II first. The ending stinks of rewrites, but overall its a good flick.
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