Sangre, cuchillos, y tetas --- Horror Film Discussion

[Rock]

Hello everyone.

[Raiders]

Ahoy to both new members. Welcome.

[Spun Lepton]

Always glad to see new horror fans.

[Rock]

I might as well ask, what is the opinion on Lucio Fulci here? I saw Zombie for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really bored for the most part (aside from a few atmospheric stretches throughout). The pacing was punishingly slow, and all the encounters with the zombies were staged really awkwardly. If I didn't like it, is the rest of his work still worth getting into?

[Raiders]

I might as well ask, what is the opinion on Lucio Fulci here? I saw Zombie for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really bored for the most part (aside from a few atmospheric stretches throughout). The pacing was punishingly slow, and all the encounters with the zombies were staged really awkwardly. If I didn't like it, is the rest of his work still worth getting into?

Hear hear. Seen that and The House by the Cemetery and found both dull as hell with a lumbering style and as you say, poor staging.

[Spun Lepton]

I might as well ask, what is the opinion on Lucio Fulci here? I saw Zombie for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really bored for the most part (aside from a few atmospheric stretches throughout). The pacing was punishingly slow, and all the encounters with the zombies were staged really awkwardly. If I didn't like it, is the rest of his work still worth getting into?

I love his late-70s/early-80s output, but only because it's wonderfully cheesy. Zombie is probably his most "polished" of the bunch, so if you didn't like that, you probably won't like anything else. That said, I love to show people City of the Living Dead, and not only because it's faiirly batshit, but it makes little sense and is ridiculously gory.

[Rock]

That said, I love to show people City of the Living Dead, and not only because it's faiirly batshit, but it makes little sense and is ridiculously gory.

That makes it sound somewhat intriguing.

[D_Davis]

I might as well ask, what is the opinion on Lucio Fulci here? I saw Zombie for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really bored for the most part (aside from a few atmospheric stretches throughout). The pacing was punishingly slow, and all the encounters with the zombies were staged really awkwardly. If I didn't like it, is the rest of his work still worth getting into?

He's a hack who sometimes, accidentally, stumbles upon something cool and worthwhile.


Can't name a single film of his that I like 100%, but there are parts of a few of his films that I think are cool.

[Spun Lepton]

Can't name a single film of his that I like 100%, but there are parts of a few of his films that I think are cool.

City of the Living Dead. The reporter who nearly kills Katriona MacColl while trying to rescue her from being buried alive.

[D_Davis]

City of the Living Dead. The reporter who nearly kills Katriona MacColl while trying to rescue her from being buried alive.

City of the Living Dead is easily his most accomplished film.

[MadMan]

Hello everyone.

Yo Rock. Welcome.

Five years ago.

Heh okay. Post more often man.

I finally viewed John Dies At The End last night, and here are my thoughts reposted from my blog (spoilered due to length):

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Yes I know this movie is based on a book. Considering that the movie adaption just freaked me out and left me wondering exactly what the hell I just watched, I want to read the book. Damn soy sauce man, or the black oil, or whatever that thing really was….I don’t understand. Viewing this movie while drinking failed to do me any favors: the terror I felt was amplified more by the alcohol. I need to see John Dies At The End sober, and yet I’m afraid to because the movie took me to dark places, areas I didn’t want to go. It’s fitting to watch a movie about a drug that amplifies the human mind, sweeping the brain and psyche into worlds that you did not think were possible to enter into to while intoxicated on beer.

David is the film’s main protagonist, telling Arnie a story about his misadventures. Arnie of course does not believe David, yet David proceeds to inform him about the creepy nightmares that dwell beneath our main plain of normal life. The real world is not the real world, no, for there are other lands out there waiting to be found. All you have to do is inject or digest this black subsistence into your body, thus heightening ones perception and expanding ones mind into the infinite. This what I think anyways, as the film is never really clear as to how this drug exists in the first place. Oh and Clancy Brown knows exactly what’s going on because well he’s Clancy Brown. Duh.

Even though the last act drags a bit this is a film that dives into that special brand of weirdness that you never forget. I’ll remember the random worm creatures, the magical Jamaican guy who introduces David to the possibility that his understanding of the universe is too limited, and that at some point the dog has a better knowledge of what’s going on than David, John, or us, the audience, actually do. Bark Lee rules. Its been too long since I’ve viewed a movie quite like this one, where I’m not sure what is going on but it doesn’t matter since my mind is completely blown and I’m in awe of what is happening. We need more films like this one, not less.

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[MadMan]

As for Fulci I actually liked Don't Torture a Duckling although I still find that movie to be decent at best. I've also seen The Beyond, which absolutely hilarious and a complete mediocre mess. Its not boring, though, so there is that. I do want to see more of his movies though as he appears to be a very poor man's Bava/Argento.

[Spun Lepton]

As for Fulci I actually liked Don't Torture a Duckling although I still find that movie to be decent at best. I've also seen The Beyond, which absolutely hilarious and a complete mediocre mess. Its not boring, though, so there is that. I do want to see more of his movies though as he appears to be a very poor man's Bava/Argento.

I would argue if something is unintentionally hilarious, like The Beyond, that it's anything but mediocre. Ham-fisted, poorly scripted, over-acted, confused, cheap, and filled with numerous poor decisions? Yes. I mean ... those spiders ... did Fulci thnk nobody would notice? Anyway, I love the movie, and not in spite of these problems, but because of them. It also has one of the greatest bad-movie lines in history, "I gave you carte blanche, not a blank check!"

[Dukefrukem]

He's a hack who sometimes accidentallynever stumbles upon something cool and worthwhile.

Fixed

[Spun Lepton]

Fixed

Vomiting your own intestines is cool and worthwhile. 9 out of 10 doctors agree.

[Rowland]

Going by the responses so far, I may be Fulci's biggest fan around here.

[MadMan]

I would argue if something is unintentionally hilarious, like The Beyond, that it's anything but mediocre. Ham-fisted, poorly scripted, over-acted, confused, cheap, and filled with numerous poor decisions? Yes. I mean ... those spiders ... did Fulci thnk nobody would notice? Anyway, I love the movie, and not in spite of these problems, but because of them. It also has one of the greatest bad-movie lines in history, "I gave you carte blanche, not a blank check!"

I love that line, actually as it made me laugh. A lot. Look the movie is a mess but I don't hate it and I want to see it again just to note if my opinion changes. TCM Underground aired it and then the original Night of the Living Dead one Friday night, which was a sweet classic zombie double bill. Sadly its not available on Netflix Instant Viewing. I think I have City of the Living Dead in my DVD queue though.

[Rowland]

City of the Living Dead, The Beyond, Don't Torture a Duckling, The New York Ripper, and the unfairly ignored Murder Rock are my favorites by Fulci. Zombie, The House By the Cemetery, The Black Cat, and Four of the Apocalypse are alright, A Lizard in a Woman's Skin and The Psychic have worthy qualities but are largely forgettable (though the latter is the source of this tune from Kill Bill), whereas Zombie 3 and Conquest are terrible but compulsively watchable madness.

[Rowland]

After the botched Blu-ray transfer for Black Sabbath (I'll probably import the Region B release for that one), it's good to see the undervalued Five Dolls for an August Moon receive a good-looking transfer.

[Dead & Messed Up]

I might as well ask, what is the opinion on Lucio Fulci here? I saw Zombie for the first time a few weeks ago, and I was really bored for the most part (aside from a few atmospheric stretches throughout). The pacing was punishingly slow, and all the encounters with the zombies were staged really awkwardly. If I didn't like it, is the rest of his work still worth getting into?

I've only tried a couple, and I came to the same conclusion. Unless his style deviates significantly from Zombie and The Beyond at some point, I'm not inclined to search further.

[Spun Lepton]

I've only tried a couple, and I came to the same conclusion. Unless his style deviates significantly from Zombie and The Beyond at some point, I'm not inclined to search further.

You haven't seen City of the Living Dead? Man, you are missing out on some grade-A quality cheese.

[Rock]

Murder Rock

I don't like this title.

[Rowland]

I don't like this title.

You're right; the full title, Murder-Rock: Dancing Death, is better.

[Rowland]

You haven't seen City of the Living Dead? Man, you are missing out on some grade-A quality cheese.

And it's a borderline great movie in my estimation, cheese or no cheese.

[Rock]

You're right; the full title, Murder-Rock: Dancing Death, is better.

Oh, my dislike was less from the actual title and more from not wanting to get murdered.

Although Dancing Death does sound better.