Match Cut's Movies to See Before You Die (or Get a Girlfriend)

**Ivan Drago** · 03-10-2009, 04:53 PM

Damn, I would've added a list had I known there'd be a tally for Cinematic Soulmates and stuff like that.

Oh well, I was saving doing a top 100 for a separate thread anyway.

**D_Davis** · 03-10-2009, 05:25 PM

Quoting Boner M (view post)

I think if Davis ever writes an autobiography, Cancel That DVD Date! would be an apt title. That, or Nobody's Soulmate.

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

**Qrazy** · 03-10-2009, 05:26 PM

Quoting Daniel Davis (view post)

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

Go back to HongKongCut.com!

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**Derek** · 03-10-2009, 05:36 PM

Quoting Daniel Davis (view post)

Heh...

I always new I was out of step around here...

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

**balmakboor** · 03-10-2009, 05:37 PM

Quoting transmogrifier (view post)

The full list:

1. jamaul
2. Weeping Guitar
3. Watashi
4. Xyklyx
5. megladon8
6. Ezee E (350)
7. Kurosawa Fan (341)
8. Dead & Messed Up (325)
9. ThePlashyBubbler (312)
10. Fezzik (301)
11. soitgoes... (297)
12. dreamdead (289)
13. fasozupow (283)
14. EyesWideOpen (271)
15. Raiders (262)
15. Sycophant (262)
17. Russ (260)
18. transmogrifier (257)
19. eternity (251)
19. Kurious Jorge v3.1 (251)
21. Boner M
22. Spinal
23. The Mike
24. Antoine
25. Daniel Davis

Average overlap: 291.9 (12.7 per list)

Shouldn't I win an award for representing the median?

**balmakboor** · 03-10-2009, 05:41 PM

Whenever I feel like something completely different, I always start with D's lists.

**D_Davis** · 03-10-2009, 05:42 PM

Quoting Qrazy (view post)

Go back to HongKongCut.com!

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Funny - the only 2 forums I've ever been banned from are both Asian-film related...

Quoting Derek (view post)

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

Yes!

**D_Davis** · 03-10-2009, 05:45 PM

So Mulholland Dr. will probably rank pretty highly - it seems to be ranked highly in a number of lists. I wonder, will it be the most liked film at Match Cut?

That would be pretty cool.

**Qrazy** · 03-10-2009, 05:49 PM

Quoting Derek (view post)

I'll watch a DVD with you any time!

As long as you get to pick the DVD?

**Ezee E** · 03-10-2009, 05:52 PM

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

**balmakboor** · 03-10-2009, 06:11 PM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

Well, these are the movies I most regretted leaving off due to my rule. Not sure if they would've changed my rankings much.

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**Fezzik** · 03-10-2009, 06:35 PM

This is going to be a glorious thread.

**dreamdead** · 03-10-2009, 07:11 PM

Quoting transmogrifier (view post)

DREAMDEAD

Cinematic Soulmates

1. Raiders (28)

Cancel that DVD date!

3. Daniel Davis, Ezee E (5)

Not too shocked to see that Raiders and I have fairly similar taste. I used his list back in '05/'06 to fill in blanks of cinematic history, so that's fairly unsurprising.

I am shocked to see that Ezee E and I even have that much crossover. Daniel and I at least try to meet one another in exemplary genre work, but without the greatest Scorsese connection, I'm oddly interested in scanning where else we had conjoining interests.

**transmogrifier** · 03-10-2009, 07:26 PM

Quoting dreamdead (view post)

I am shocked to see that Ezee E and I even have that much crossover. Daniel and I at least try to meet one another in exemplary genre work, but without the greatest Scorsese connection, I'm oddly interested in scanning where else we had conjoining interests.

Aguirre
All That Jazz
It's a Wonderful Life
Sunset Blvd.
The Passion of Joan of Arc

**Ezee E** · 03-10-2009, 07:29 PM

Quoting transmogrifier (view post)

Aguirre
All That Jazz
It's a Wonderful Life
Sunset Blvd.
The Passion of Joan of Arc

The Thin Red Line just missed mine as well.

I thought I had A Man Escaped on my list.

Most of the movies on your list I like a ton, but have only seen once.

**Yxklyx** · 03-10-2009, 09:19 PM

Quoting Ezee E (view post)

faz could be the epitome of Match Cut had he not used his "one film per director" rule.

jamaul being #1 is curious since he was the last one to post a list.

**transmogrifier** · 03-10-2009, 09:23 PM

The Master List

#508. The Mirror (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: -
Highest ranking: -

#507. Office Space (Mike Judge, 1999)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 92.5
Highest ranking: 91 (eternity)

#506. The Host (Bong Jun-ho, 2006)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 92
Highest ranking: 86 (Sycophant)

#504. The Diving Bell and the Butterfly (Julian Schnabel, 2007)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 88 (fasozupow)

#504. Donnie Darko (Richard Kelly, 2001)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 88 (eternity)

#503. The Last Picture Show (Peter Bogdanovich, 1971))
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 91.5
Highest ranking: 83 (soitgoes...)

**Yxklyx** · 03-10-2009, 09:35 PM

Where's #503?

**transmogrifier** · 03-10-2009, 09:37 PM

Quoting Yxklyx (view post)

Where's #503?

Two #502s that couldn't be split

**jamaul** · 03-10-2009, 09:39 PM

Quoting Yxklyx (view post)

jamaul being #1 is curious since he was the last one to post a list.

Shhhhhhh!!!

**transmogrifier** · 03-10-2009, 10:18 PM

#502. Gremlins 2: The New Batch (Joe Dante, 1990)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 89.5
Highest ranking: 86 (Boner M)

#501. The Draughtman's Contract (Peter Greenaway, 1982)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 89
Highest ranking: 89 (dreamdead)

#500. Hoop Dreams (Steve James, 1994)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88.5
Highest ranking: 82 (Ezee E)

#499. Lessons of Darkness (Werner Herzog, 1992)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 85 (Russ)

#498. The Last Laugh (F. W. Murnau, 1924)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 88
Highest ranking: 76 (Kurious Jorge)

#497. Don't Look Now (Nicholas Roeg, 1973)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 87.5
Highest ranking: 78 (transmogrifier)

#496. Infernal Affairs (Wai-keung Lau & Siu Fai Mak, 2002)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86.5
Highest ranking: 81 (Fezzik)

#495. The Children of Paradise (Marcel Carne, 1945)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86.5
Highest ranking: 77 (Boner M)

#494. Southern Comfort (Walter Hill, 1981)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 86
Highest ranking: 85 (transmogrifier)

#493. The Big Red One (Sam Fuller, 1980)
List mentions: 2
Average ranking: 85.5
Highest ranking: 78 (dreamdead)

Commentary and Notes:

* First of five films on the list for Werner Herzog, which makes him tied at 11th for most loved director at Match Cut based on number of films represented. (complete director rundown to take place at some stage, probably at the end).

* First strike against Match Cut:
- number of films by Sam Fuller on the list = 4
- number of films by Rob Reiner on the list = 4

* The Departed is also on the list. So much for the poverty of remakes

**Watashi** · 03-10-2009, 10:20 PM

Awesome.

**Sycophant** · 03-10-2009, 10:27 PM

Hey, Infernal Affairs made it on the list even without my help!

Acutally, quick question--since it was #99 or #100 and pushed off my list-- would having had my vote, a third support that would've brought down its placement average, knocked it lower on the last?

Basically, what's the method here?

**transmogrifier** · 03-10-2009, 10:33 PM

Quoting Sycophant (view post)

Hey, Infernal Affairs made it on the list even without my help!

Acutally, quick question--since it was #99 or #100 and pushed off my list-- would having had my vote, a third support that would've brought down its placement average, knocked it lower on the last?

Basically, what's the method here?

The rankings are exceptionally simple: the films are ordered by number of list mentions, with ties (of which there are many, naturally) split first by average ranking (for those lists that were listed preferentially) and failing that, by highest individual ranking.

I was going to assign points based on position, and all that, but I figured that, because so many people described the ordering of their list as somewhat changeable, I decided to treat the list first and foremost as a submission of 100 "best" films. I think it is the best system for this type of activity, despite any flaws it may have. Basically, it's a measure of the films we treasure as a group.

With Infernal Affairs, your vote would have pushed it to at least 315 (when the 3 list movies start), and it would have beaten The Departed, which got two votes as well, but a slightly better average ranking.

**Sycophant** · 03-10-2009, 10:36 PM

Good call, trans.

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