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    gender swap

    i need recommendation.

    lately, just like QT, i've been trashed for my female characters. i have a lot of saying against that, but in any case, it would be nice to investigate more literatures in which authors are famour or at least very good at characterizing the member of opposite sex. any recommendation?

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    This is so not what I was expecting from this thread.

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    Quote Quoting Winston* (view post)
    This is so not what I was expecting from this thread.
    Me neither, and I expected the author would be Watashi.

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    Mrs. Dalloway, Virginia Woolf
    The House of Mirth, Edith Wharton
    Emma, Jane Austen
    The Lover, Marguerite Duras
    Medea, Euripides

    Sadly, a much harder list to come up with than I expected.
    Memories of the Future

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    Quote Quoting jesse (view post)
    Mrs. Dalloway, Virginia Woolf
    The House of Mirth, Edith Wharton
    Emma, Jane Austen
    The Lover, Marguerite Duras
    Medea, Euripides

    Sadly, a much harder list to come up with than I expected.
    i believe you misunderstand my question. the gender of the main character has to be opposite with of the writer. (which will make this list even harder to come up with.)

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    Quote Quoting lovejuice (view post)
    i believe you misunderstand my question. the gender of the main character has to be opposite with of the writer. (which will make this list even harder to come up with.)

    It sounded as if you wanted recommendations on characters of your opposite sex not the authors'.

    A few...
    Zola - Nana & Therese Raquin
    Henry James - The Portrait of a Lady
    C.S. Lewis - Till We Have Faces
    Wilkie Collins - The Woman in White (Marian)
    Leopold von Sacher-Masoch - Venus in Furs
    Tolstoy - Anna K
    Flaubert - Madame B

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    Quote Quoting lovejuice (view post)
    i believe you misunderstand my question. the gender of the main character has to be opposite with of the writer. (which will make this list even harder to come up with.)
    Indeed I did, proof I probably shouldn't have been posting at work.

    So let me try again,

    Michael Cunningham, The Hours
    Henry James, Daisy Miller (I think Space Oddity would attest that James did well by his female characters; I haven't read enough, unfortunately)
    J.D. Salinger, Franny and Zooey
    Euripides, Medea
    Gustave Flaubert, Madame Bovary
    Nathaniel Hawthorne, The Scarlet Letter

    And the opposite:

    Jhumpa Lahiri, The Namesake (though I know you didn't like Intrepreter of Maladies)
    Flannery O'Connor, The Violent Bear it Away
    Edith Wharton, Ethan Frome
    Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
    Memories of the Future

    "Criticism can be monumentally creative, of course, at times highly artistic, highly personal. But it rarely relates to the work of art being assessed. It is an expression of the critic's own subjectivity." -Joyce Carol Oates, Journals

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    Quote Quoting jesse (view post)
    Harper Lee, To Kill a Mockingbird
    that's a good call, since i think lee captures the manhood of atticus very well. thank for the recommendation, both you and spaceoddities.

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    Quote Quoting jesse (view post)
    Henry James, Daisy Miller (I think Space Oddity would attest that James did well by his female characters; I haven't read enough, unfortunately)
    DM is a great story.

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    I haven't read it yet, but Thomas Hardy's Tess of the Dubervilles probably fits this bill well.
    "Modern weapons can defend freedom, civilization, and life only by annihilating them. Security in military language means the ability to do away with the Earth."
    -Ivan Illich, Deschooling Society

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    Quote Quoting Daniel Davis (view post)
    DM is a great story.
    I'm surprised you didn't mention Dick's Transmigration of Timothy Archer!
    "Modern weapons can defend freedom, civilization, and life only by annihilating them. Security in military language means the ability to do away with the Earth."
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    Quote Quoting monolith94 (view post)
    I'm surprised you didn't mention Dick's Transmigration of Timothy Archer!
    Sometimes I feel as though people get tired of me mentioning anything to do with PKD.

    Glad someone mentioned it though. Throughout most of his career, PKD was accused of being a misogynist, and rightly so, as his books do feature female characters with highly questionable motives and morals. And so with Timothy Archer, he wrote a story from a female POV about a wonderfully written female character. It's like PKD's last chance to make amends in this area.

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