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    Forgot about Manhunt.

    Hmm... What to read next after this Scorsese book.

    Barbarian - ***
    Bones and All - ***
    Tar - **


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    books read in 2008

    I Am The Cheese — Robert Cormier
    Uncertainty — David Lindley
    The Knight — Gene Wolfe
    The Wizard — Gene Wolfe
    The Maimed — Hermann Ungar
    Mostly Harmless — Douglas Adams (reread)
    The Plot: The Secret Story Of The Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion — Will Eisner
    Literacy With An Attitude — Patrick J. Finn
    Fables: Legends In Exile — Bill Willingham
    Eats, Shoots, And Leaves — Lynn Truss
    Fables — Vol. 2, 3, 4
    Y The Last Man — Vol. 8, 9
    Fables — Vol. 5, 7 , 8
    Classroom Assessment — Peter Airasian, Michael Russell
    Shortcomings — Adrian Tomine
    The Woman In White — Wilkie Collins
    Fables — Sons of Empire
    Fables — 1001 Nights of Snowfall
    Powers — Vol. 1, 3-11
    The Urth of the New Sun — Gene Wolfe
    Making Money — Terry Pratchett
    Thud! — Terry Pratchett
    The Shambhala Guide To Sufism — Carl Ernst
    The Mentalist's Handbook — Clint Marsh
    Things Fall Apart — Chinua Achebe
    The Doors of Perception; Heaven and Hell — Aldous Huxley
    Arkham Asylum — Grant Morrison / Dave McKean
    Groucho, Harpo, Chico and sometimes Zeppo — Joe Adamson
    The Pixar Touch — David Price
    Invisible Man — Ralph Ellison
    The Neverending Story — Michael Ende
    Black Hole — Charles Burns
    Swam Thing, Vols. 1-3 — Alan Moore
    An Evil Guest — Gene Wolfe

    I'll probably have finished Gene Wolfe's Pirate Freedom by tomorrow. So far it's much better than An Evil Guest.
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    All first-time reads, quality ranked from top to bottom:

    The Power of Myth - Joseph Campbell
    The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
    The Inhuman Condition - Clive Barker
    The Crack in Space - Phillip K. Dick
    Something Wicked This Way Comes - Ray Bradbury
    2001: A Space Odyssey - Arthur C. Clarke
    The Ruins - Scott Smith
    Thinner - Stephen King
    The Catcher in the Rye - J. D. Salinger

    I'm still working on Cabal and Teatro Grottesco.

    I heard The Power of Myth on audio CD, and it was one of the more profound things I've "read" in my life. Campbell's simultaneous contempt of religious dogma and reverence for mythic archetypes really spoke to me.

    The only one I disliked was The Catcher in the Rye. I found Holden to be insufferable.

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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    The only one I disliked was The Catcher in the Rye. I found Holden to be insufferable.
    Well, OK. But why did you dislike the book?
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    I like Holden.

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    I didn't read as much this year. My list...

    Patrick Hamilton - The Midnight Bell
    Patrick Hamilton - The Siege of Pleasure
    Patrick Hamilton - The Plains of Cement
    Jessica Mitford - Hons and Rebels
    Robertson Davies - The Lyre of Orpheus
    Charlotte Bronte - Villette
    Margaret Kennedy - The Constant Nymph
    Salman Rushdie - Midnight's Children
    Italo Calvino - Invisible Cities
    Hawthorne - The Blithedale Romance
    Ernest Hemingway - A Farewell to Arms
    Timothy Findley - Famous Last Words
    Dickens - David Copperfield
    John Updike - The Witches of Eastwick
    Alice Walker - The Color Purple
    Marguerite Duras - The Vice Consul
    Thackeray - Vanity Fair
    Robert Graves - I, Claudius
    Thomas Hardy - The Mayor of Casterbridge
    Tove Jansson - The Summer Book
    Edith Wharton - The Custom of the Country
    Ibsen - A Doll's House
    Susan Glaspell - Trifles
    Bernard Shaw - Pygmalion
    Euripides - Medea
    H.G. Wells - The Time Machine
    Dambudzo Marechera - The House of Hunger
    Dostoyevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
    Thomas Pynchon - The Crying of Lot 49
    Louisa May Alcott - Behind a Mask
    Ellen Raskin - The Westing Game
    Shakespeare - Henry V
    Aphra Behn - Oroonoko
    John Wyndham - The Midwich Cuckoos
    Flaubert - Salammbo
    Peter Ackroyd - Hawksmoor
    R.D. Blackmore - Lorna Doone
    Anais Nin - Henry and June
    Aphra Behn - The Rover
    Daphne du Maurier - My Cousin Rachel
    Shakespeare - Othello
    Turgenev - Spring Torrents
    Rebecca Miller - The Private Lives of Pippa Lee
    Shakespeare - As You Like It
    Sheridan Le Fanu - In a Glass Darkly
    Olaf Stapledon - Star Maker
    Haruki Murakami - After Dark
    Madame de Stael - Corinne
    Manuel Puig - Kiss of the Spider Woman
    Austen - Northanger Abbey
    Pat Barker - The Ghost Road
    Shakespeare - Antony and Cleopatra
    Mark Haddon - The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time
    Stendhal - Scarlet and Black
    Daphne du Maurier - The King's General
    Mary Shelley - The Last Man
    Virginia Woolf - Flush
    Apuleius - The Golden Ass
    Frances Burney - Cecilia
    Lady Morgan - The Wild Irish Girl
    Jean Rhys - Good Morning, Midnight
    Salman Rushdie - The Enchantress of Florence
    Abbe Prevost - Manon Lescaut
    Byron - The Corsair
    Virgil - The Aeneid
    Casanova - The Story of my Life
    Frances Burney - Camilla
    Eloise Jarvis McGraw - The Moorchild
    Dumas (fils) - La Dame aux Camelias
    Chekhov - The Cherry Orchard
    Helen Fry - Music and Men The Loves of Harriet Cohen
    Charlotte Smith - Celestina
    Dodie Smith - The Hundred and One Dalmations
    Charlotte Bronte - Jane Eyre (re-read)
    Katherine Mansfield - Selected Stories
    Lewis Grassic Gibbon - Sunset Song
    Scottish Folk and Fairy Tales from Burns to Buchan
    Dickens - Dombey and Son
    James Thurber - The Thirteen Clocks
    Angela Carter - The Fairy Tales of Charles Perrault
    Charlotte Bronte - Shirley
    Madeleine L'Engle - A Wrinkle in Time
    Neil Gaiman - The Graveyard Book
    Ursula K. Le Guin - Lavinia
    Thomas Hardy - The Return of the Native
    Sarah Waters - Affinity

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    You son of a bitch.

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    Quote Quoting SpaceOddity (view post)
    I didn't read as much this year.
    And you still put us all to shame...except Davis.

    Euripides - Medea
    Dostoyevsky - The Brothers Karamazov
    Virgil - The Aeneid
    Awesome. Which translation of The Aeneid did you read?
    I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad?

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    Quote Quoting Raiders (view post)
    Well, OK. But why did you dislike the book?
    Because his insufferable presence completely dominates the book.

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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    Because his insufferable presence completely dominates the book.
    I will never understand this opinion. He's a young kid who's aware of his audience and is putting on airs. I find him to be one of the most fascinating, likable characters I've ever read about. He's not likable in the typical sense, but more his position is tragic and, for me at least, totally relatable. I love that book. One of my all time favorites, and one of the only books I've read multiple times.

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    Quote Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
    I will never understand this opinion. He's a young kid who's aware of his audience and is putting on airs. I find him to be one of the most fascinating, likable characters I've ever read about. He's not likable in the typical sense, but more his position is tragic and, for me at least, totally relatable. I love that book. One of my all time favorites, and one of the only books I've read multiple times.
    I found it all well-drawn and precise in its craft, but I just couldn't get behind Holden. I understand that there's some tragedy, but the irritation I got from his character - mostly due to his repetitive, unthinking mind - quickly overtook whatever pity or sympathy I could muster.

    Clearly, I'm in a minority, since it seems like most who read the story connect with it. It's just my honest reaction.

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    • Wieland by Charles Brockden Brown - 7.5
    I enjoyed this one. It was a strange, and fairly devastating, story.

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    Quote Quoting Melville (view post)
    And you still put us all to shame...except Davis.


    Awesome. Which translation of The Aeneid did you read?
    What was on his list?
    This is the version I read.
    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Aeneid-Pengu...0797611&sr=8-1

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    I've read a lot of fantasy book this year. I really loved the A Song of Ice and Fire series. I cannot wait for the next installment in this series. I wish Martin would hurry up and finish the damn thing. :P

    Here's what I have read this year (no rankings):

    A Game of Thrones - George R.R. Martin
    A Clash of Kings - George R.R. Martin
    A Storm of Swords - George R.R. Martin
    A Feast for Crows - George R.R. Martin
    Gardens of the Moon - Steven Erikson
    Deadhouse Gates - Steven Erikson
    Assassin's Apprentice - Robin Hobb
    Royal Assassin - Robin Hobb
    Assassin's Quest - Robin Hobb
    The Great Gatsby - F. Scott Fitzgerald
    Lolita - Vladimir Nabokov
    JPod - Douglas Coupland
    Salem's Lot - Stephen King
    To Kill A Mockingbird - Harper Lee

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    Quote Quoting SpaceOddity (view post)
    What was on his list?
    Lots of horror and sci-fi books:
    http://match-cut.org/showpost.php?p=...postcount=1886

    Dryden's translation strikes me as being much better than any of the others; everything about it seems so propulsive and momentous. Though he probably took a lot of liberties with the original text.
    I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad?

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    Pretty good year for me. Copied and pasted from my Goodreads list:

    books read in 2008

    1. The World of Yesterday - Zweig, Stefan
    2. Vingt-quatre heures de la vie d'une femme - Zweig, Stefan
    3. La Embriaguez de La Metamorfosis - Zweig, Stefan
    4. Candelabro Enterrado, El - Zweig, Stefan
    5. Night - Wiesel, Elie
    6. The Age of Innocence - Wharton, Edith
    7. Brideshead Revisited - Waugh, Evelyn
    8. El Viaje Vertical - Vila-Matas, Enrique
    9. The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn - Twain, Mark
    10. First Love - Turgenev, Ivan S.
    11. A Tree Grows in Brooklyn - Smith, Betty
    12. Two Lives: A Memoir - Seth, Vikram
    13. Austerlitz - Sebald, W.G.
    14. Night Games: And Other Stories and Novellas - Schnitzler, Arthur
    15. The Human Comedy - Saroyan, William
    16. The Laughing Matter - Saroyan, William
    17. Bonjour Tristesse - Sagan, Françoise
    18. Philosophical Essays - Russell, Bertrand
    19. The Invisible Heart: An Economic Romance - Roberts, Russell
    20. The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge - Rilke, Rainer Maria
    21. Art: A Play - Reza, Yasmina
    22. The Fountainhead - Rand, Ayn
    23. Swann's Way: In Search of Lost Time, Vol. 1 - Proust, Marcel
    24. Pensees - Pascal, Blaise
    25. Cosmetique De L'ennemi - Nothomb, Amélie
    26. Journal d'Hirondelle - Nothomb, Amélie
    27. Stupeur Et Tremblements - Nothomb, Amélie
    28. Le Sabotage Amoureux - Nothomb, Amélie
    29. David Golder - Nemirovsky, Irene
    30. Pnin - Nabokov, Vladimir
    31. Blind Willow, Sleeping Woman - Murakami, Haruki
    32. El Sur y Bene - Morales, Adelaida GarcÃ*a
    33. Dans le café de la jeunesse perdue - Modiano, Patrick
    34. Death of a Salesman: Certain Private Conversations in Two Acts and A Requiem - Miller, Arthur
    35. The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter - McCullers, Carson
    36. Chronicle of a Death Foretold - Márquez, Gabriel GarcÃ*a
    37. So Long, See You Tomorrow - Maxwell, William
    38. Tiempo De Silencio - Martin-Santos, Luis
    39. The Screwtape Letters - Lewis, C.S.
    40. A Grief Observed - Lewis, C.S.
    41. Night Patrol and Other Stories - Kuraev, Mikhail
    42. Darkness at Noon: A Novel - Koestler, Arthur
    43. Fear and Trembling - Kierkegaard, Søren
    44. No One Belongs Here More Than You: Stories - July, Miranda
    45. The Bald Soprano and Other Plays: Bald Soprano/the Lesson/Jack or the Submission/the Chairs - Ionesco, Eugène
    46. Island - Huxley, Aldous
    47. High Fidelity - Hornby, Nick
    48. Jude the Obscure - Hardy, Thomas
    49. Life and Fate - Grossman, Vasily
    50. The Revolt of the Masses - Gasset, José Ortega y
    51. The World Is Flat: A Brief History of the Twenty-First Century (Hardcover) Friedman, Thomas L.
    52. The Sound and the Fury - Faulkner, William
    53. Middlemarch - Eliot, George
    54. What Is the What - Eggers, Dave
    55. Chronicles: Volume One - Dylan, Bob
    56. Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky, Fyodor
    57. White Noise - DeLillo, Don
    58. Fifth Business - Davies, Robertson
    59. Heart of Darkness - Conrad, Joseph
    60. Orthodoxy - Chesterton, G.K.
    61. The Man Who Was Thursday: A Nightmare - Chesterton, G.K.
    62. On Lying in Bed and Other Essays by G.K. Chesterton - Chesterton, G.K.
    63. Saint Thomas Aquinas: The Dumb Ox - Chesterton, G.K.
    64. Saint Francis of Assisi - Chesterton, G.K.
    65. The Invention of Morel - Casares, Adolfo Bioy
    66. Cathedral - Carver, Raymond
    67. Call If You Need Me: The Uncollected Fiction and Other Prose - Carver, Raymond
    68. The Stranger - Camus, Albert
    69. Brodie's Report - Borges, Jorge Luis
    70. The Aleph and Other Stories - Borges, Jorge Luis
    71. The Diary of a Country Priest: A Novel - Bernanos, Georges
    72. Silk - Baricco, Alessandro
    73. The New York Trilogy - Auster, Paul
    74. Winesburg, Ohio - Anderson, Sherwood

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    Quote Quoting SpaceOddity (view post)
    Haruki Murakami - After Dark
    Out of curiosity, how is this one?

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    9. The Adventures Of Huckleberry Finn - Twain, Mark
    23. Swann's Way: In Search of Lost Time, Vol. 1 - Proust, Marcel
    42. Darkness at Noon: A Novel - Koestler, Arthur
    43. Fear and Trembling - Kierkegaard, Søren
    52. The Sound and the Fury - Faulkner, William
    56. Crime and Punishment - Dostoevsky, Fyodor
    59. Heart of Darkness - Conrad, Joseph
    68. The Stranger - Camus, Albert
    70. The Aleph and Other Stories - Borges, Jorge Luis
    Jesus. That's a lot of amazing books.

    6. The Age of Innocence - Wharton, Edith
    7. Brideshead Revisited - Waugh, Evelyn
    10. First Love - Turgenev, Ivan S.
    35. The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter - McCullers, Carson
    48. Jude the Obscure - Hardy, Thomas
    How are these?
    I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad?

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    Quote Quoting Melville (view post)
    How are these?
    I read The Age of Innocence last summer in New York, which I felt was appropriate. It's lush and tragic; for some reason, the ending nearly brought me to tears. I was already a fan of Waugh's work, but I hadn't read Brideshead Revisited 'til this year; it's become my favourite of his. It's not as satirical and biting as his other writings from the 20s and 30s (the ones I was accustomed to), but it is undoubtedly his most humane and profound. Very melancholy, too. First Love was good, thought a bit on the short side. I prefer Fathers and Sons.
    As for The Heart Is a Lonely Hunter I read it for a second time, as upon my initial reading it became an instant favourite. It's one of the best depictions of rural life in America that I know of, amongst many other things. The characters really come alive and the writing is simple and lyrical. Lots of memorable scenes.
    And Jude the Obscure... it was the first book I read in 2008, so I don't remember that much, but I did like it, although I wasn't overwhelmingly impressed. I still have more Hardy to read, however.

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    Quote Quoting Thirdy (view post)
    I was already a fan of Waugh's work, but I hadn't read Brideshead Revisited 'til this year; it's become my favourite of his. It's not as satirical and biting as his other writings from the 20s and 30s (the ones I was accustomed to), but it is undoubtedly his most humane and profound. Very melancholy, too.
    I haven't read anything by Waugh. I should get on that. Nothing speaks to me like profundity and melancholy.
    I am impatient of all misery in others that is not mad. Thou should'st go mad, blacksmith; say, why dost thou not go mad? How can'st thou endure without being mad? Do the heavens yet hate thee, that thou can'st not go mad?

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    Just got an email from SpaceOddity urging me to post my list... as one of the reasons I quit posting here (and spend less time online in general) was to focus more time on reading, well, mission accomplished. Read nearly three times as many titles as last year, even without counting the abandoned books, short stories and essays not listed here.

    Collections of poetry are marked with a *.

    The Trojan Women - Euripides
    Homosexuality and Civilization - Louis Crompton
    The Picture of Dorian Gray - Oscar Wilde
    The Blithedale Romance - Nathaniel Hawthorne
    Three Sisters - Anton Chekhov
    The Celluloid Closet - Vito Russo
    Beowulf
    Ecclesiastes
    Movie Wars - Jonathan Rosenbaum
    Autobiography of Red* - Anne Carson
    If Not, Winter: Fragments of Sappho* - Anne Carson
    As You Like It - William Shakespeare
    Moving Places: A Life at the Movies - Jonathan Rosenbaum
    The Beauty of the Husband* - Anne Carson
    A Moveable Feast - Ernest Hemingway
    Uncensored: Views and (Re)Views - Joyce Carol Oates
    The Wasteland and Other Poems - T.S. Eliot
    Kora and Ka (with Mira-Mare) - h.d.
    Les enfants terribles - Jean Cocteau
    Sexual Personae - Camille Paglia
    Sex, Art and American Culture - Camille Paglia
    The Name of the Rose - Umberto Eco
    The White Paper - Jean Cocteau
    Say Uncle: Poems* - Kay Ryan
    The Bell - Iris Murdoch
    Vamps and Tramps - Camille Paglia
    The Journals of Joyce Carol Oates: 1973 - 1982 - Joyce Carol Oates
    The Profane Art: Essays and Reviews - Joyce Carol Oates
    Catcher in the Rye (re-read)- J.D. Salinger
    With Love and Squalor: 14 Writers Respond to J.D. Salinger - K. Kotzen and T. Beller, eds.
    Screened Out: Playing Gay in Hollywood from Edison to Stonewall - Richard Barrios
    Dancing Ledge - Derek Jarman
    Something Bright, Then Holes* - Maggie Nelson
    Brideshead Revisited - Evelyn Waugh
    Seven Notebooks: Poems* - Campbell Mcgrath
    The Art of Memoir: Then, Again - Sven Birkerts
    The Holy Innocents: A Romance - Gilbert Adair
    Sea Change* - Jorie Graham
    Stroke: Poems* - Sidney Wade
    A Woman's View: How Hollywood Spoke to Women, 1930 - 1960 - Jeanine Basinger
    Rock Harbor* - Carl Phillips
    Art and Sex in Greenwich Village: A Memoir of Gay Literary Life after Stonewall - Felice Picano
    Watching the Spring Festival: Poems* - Frank Bidart
    The Lost Saranac Interviews: Forgotten Conversations with Famous Writers - Joe David Bellamy, ed.
    Nick and Norah's Infinite Playlist - Rachel Cohn and David Levithan
    Against Interpretation - Susan Sontag
    Arkansas: Three Novellas - David Leavitt
    The Tether* - Carl Phillips
    The Witches - Roald Dahl
    Uncommon Arrangements: Seven Portraits of Married Life in London Literary Circles - Katie Roiphe
    From the Mixed-Up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Franweiler - E.L. Konigsburg
    A Christmas Carol - Charles Dickens
    An Acceptable Time - Madeleine L'Engle
    Little Women - Louisa May Alcott

    ___

    The books immediately ushered onto my "most-loved" list: Autobiography of Red, Journal of Joyce Carol Oates, Brideshead Revisited, Against Interpretation, Little Woman

    Honorable Mentions: As You Like It, Sexual Personae, Les enfants terribles, Name of the Rose, Say Uncle: Poems

    A happy new year to everyone!

    -jesse
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    "Criticism can be monumentally creative, of course, at times highly artistic, highly personal. But it rarely relates to the work of art being assessed. It is an expression of the critic's own subjectivity." -Joyce Carol Oates, Journals

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    Pretty good year for me. Copied and pasted from my Goodreads list:
    I've been meaning to ask you over at GR, but this will work just as well: how much of your reading is for school, and how much for pleasure? A daunting list, one way or the other!
    Memories of the Future

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    Quote Quoting jesse (view post)
    The books immediately ushered onto my "most-loved" list: (...) Brideshead Revisited
    Very nice!

    The Wasteland and Other Poems - T.S. Eliot
    How did you like it?

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    Quote Quoting jesse (view post)
    I've been meaning to ask you over at GR, but this will work just as well: how much of your reading is for school, and how much for pleasure? A daunting list, one way or the other!
    I only read for pleasure. I study Law, so all I read regarding my degree is codes and cases.

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    By the way, I would like to pimp three European authors that I'm sure aren't very well-known in the US: George Bernanos, Amélie Nothomb and Stefan Zweig.

    In particular the last one -- he was truly one of the best writers of the 20th century. His oeuvre is also pretty big (he wrote novels, essays and biographies, like Marie Antoinette's). I don't know to what extent his books have been transtlated into English, or if they can be found with relative ease, but I feel pretty lucky since this publishing company here in Spain has translated pretty much his entire body of work into Spanish. Whenever I don't know what to read, I read whichever of his books, and I've yet to be disappointed.

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