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    I'd be more interested in a Scorsese sci-fi than a Scorsese western.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    I'd be more interested in a Scorsese sci-fi than a Scorsese western.
    I feel the other way around. Scorsese knows Westerns a lot more.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    I feel the other way around. Scorsese knows Westerns a lot more.
    Since I dislike both The Age of Innocence and Last Temptation of the Christ I have little faith in his ability to do 'historical' dramas. I'd be interested to see his take on the future though.

    I don't see how you can say he knows westerns more when he hasn't done a sci-fi or a western... unless you're basically saying he knows guns, violence, alienation and rugged characters but all of these things could also take place in a sci-fi if he were so inclined.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    I'd be more interested in a Scorsese sci-fi than a Scorsese western.
    I want to see him do both.
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    Quote Quoting monolith94 (view post)
    Bollywood?
    I just thought of something totally random...

    Can anyone imagine Martin Scorsese directing a Bollywood movie?

    It'll never happen, obviously, but it'd be incredibly awesome and incredibly fucked up at the same time.
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    Can anyone imagine Scorsese as a trained ferret contracted to make a remake of Persona starring Timothy Spall and a tomato with a smiley face painted on it?

    How crazy would that be?

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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    Since I dislike both The Age of Innocence and Last Temptation of the Christ I have little faith in his ability to do 'historical' dramas. I'd be interested to see his take on the future though.

    I don't see how you can say he knows westerns more when he hasn't done a sci-fi or a western... unless you're basically saying he knows guns, violence, alienation and rugged characters but all of these things could also take place in a sci-fi if he were so inclined.
    He knows Westerns like he knows Crime films. His Personal Journey has an entire section dedicated to them. He has reused shots of John Wayne in some of his films.

    As a genre I'm speaking.

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    Quote Quoting Winston* (view post)
    Can anyone imagine Scorsese as a trained ferret contracted to make a remake of Persona starring Timothy Spall and a tomato with a smiley face painted on it?

    How crazy would that be?
    If anyone could make it good....

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    Quote Quoting Kurious Jorge v3.1 (view post)
    Cape Fear is one of the worst movies I have ever seen.
    I still want Jorge to explain why he thinks this.

    From what I've read on the original film, Scorsese's version sounds much better.

    The entire conversation between Max and Danielle in the auditorium is one of the best Scorsese scenes. It's hard to imagine the entire scene was completely improvised and done in one take.
    Sure why not?

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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    I still want Jorge to explain why he thinks this.

    From what I've read on the original film, Scorsese's version sounds much better.

    The entire conversation between Max and Danielle in the auditorium is one of the best Scorsese scenes. It's hard to imagine the entire scene was completely improvised and done in one take.
    The original is much, much better. I watched a double Mitchum bill with that and Night of the Hunter and came away satisfied. I'm with Jorge on disliking Scorsese's version a great deal.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    The original is much, much better. I watched a double Mitchum bill with that and Night of the Hunter and came away satisfied. I'm with Jorge on disliking Scorsese's version a great deal.
    I like Scorcese's version, not a great deal, but at least a deal. But I think I enjoy Mitchum and Peck a bit more. I heard that during one of the choreographed fights, Peck actually connected with Mitchum for real, who "felt it for days afterward." I can't imagine being actually hit by someone like young Peck. Ouchy.

    That double bill must have been something. I would want to make films like Night of the Hunter if I were a filmmaker.
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    Quote Quoting Wryan (view post)
    I like Scorcese's version, not a great deal, but at least a deal. But I think I enjoy Mitchum and Peck a bit more. I heard that during one of the choreographed fights, Peck actually connected with Mitchum for real, who "felt it for days afterward." I can't imagine being actually hit by someone like young Peck. Ouchy.

    That double bill must have been something. I would want to make films like Night of the Hunter if I were a filmmaker.
    Yeah... better that than being stabbed though I suppose (Jimmy Smits - Dexter mishap - I'm assuming it's not just rumor). Actually I watched Bringing out the Dead yesterday and it was interesting to see both Omar and Greggs (The Wire) as well as Angel (Dexter) all in there from back in the day. Pretty good film but the soundtrack didn't work for me. I thought the film would have been infinitely superior with an actual score modulating mood throughout. Also I could have used less unnecessary Scorsese flourishes. Particularly The Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas-esque transitions in the ambulance between emergency locations. That didn't work at all for me. The ghost stuff on the other hand I thought worked quite well and I would have preferred if the film stayed in tune with that, more of a Leaving Las Vegas vibe. Which is not to say that it couldn't still retain much of it's humor and zaniness. The security guard in the ER was good stuff as were Cage's fellow ambulance drivers. Well Tom Sizemore was a bit much but mostly in a good way. Ax the Fear and Loathing transitions and I think his malicious psychosis would have been more effective.

    Speaking of Sizemore he seems to be working a whole hell of a lot lately but making nothing but crap. Someone ought to resurrect his career. I find him to be very charismatic.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    Speaking of Sizemore he seems to be working a whole hell of a lot lately but making nothing but crap. Someone ought to resurrect his career. I find him to be very charismatic.
    Hasn't he had some trouble lately, following the law and stuff?
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    Quote Quoting Kurious Jorge v3.1 (view post)
    Cape Fear is one of the worst movies I have ever seen. The Departed is also poop.
    How is the Departed poop?!

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    Jack Nicholson's intonation of I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me. over footage of race riots and whatnot is a transcendent moment in Scorsese's oeuvre.

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    Quote Quoting trotchky (view post)
    Jack Nicholson's intonation of I don't want to be a product of my environment. I want my environment to be a product of me. over footage of race riots and whatnot is a transcendent moment in Scorsese's oeuvre.
    why do you say that

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    The Aviator - 10
    Uh wow.

    Thoughts on this? I mean, I dig the movie and all but a perfect 10?

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    why do you say that
    Because it's amazing and says a huge amount by establishing the film's tone and themes.

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    Quote Quoting Spaceman Spiff (view post)
    Uh wow.

    Thoughts on this? I mean, I dig the movie and all but a perfect 10?
    I think it's a brilliant character study that reveals the central character by constructing the world as he experiences it. The compositions constantly emphasize Hughes' relationships to objects, imbuing them with both tactility and subjective meaning (this is seen especially in the shots of him from the perspective of objects, and in things like the exploding flash bulbs, but it is evident throughout the film). The film is also saturated with period details (of the visual and audio types) to flesh out the sense of a lived-in world—but more interestingly, its extreme stylization, most evidenced by the tinted colors that reproduce those of 30's-era movies, insists that the the film is a film. A dialectic is created: the film is an evocation of Hughes' world, and it is simultaneously an artifice. Artifice and reality mingle, and in their synthesis we see the film as Hughes' artifice; it is his, a literalization of his life story, his bravado and grand aspirations. But it is outside of his control. He himself is beyond his control, his psychological meltdowns pointing always to his lack of free will. The film's dialectic thus becomes a reification of Hughes' psyche: his super-abundant style perpetually at odds with his human frailty. The tension between these two aspects is realized in the shot of Hughes writhing, naked, with his own film projected on his back.

    It's also filled with tremendous performances and dialogue, a great score, and extremely dynamic editing that gives it a constant energy (the staccato editing of the Coconut Grove scenes is particularly spectacular).

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    Quote Quoting Wryan (view post)
    Hasn't he had some trouble lately, following the law and stuff?
    I hadn't heard about it, what's the story?
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    I know Sizemore has some serious addiction problems, and I believe he served time recently for a parole violation. According to wikipedia, he should have been released some time in May of this year. Great actor, though, I agree.

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    Flame away, but I just watched Mean Streets for the first time, and found it kinda meandering and pointless.
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    Quote Quoting Benny Profane (view post)
    Flame away, but I just watched Mean Streets for the first time, and found it kinda meandering and pointless.
    I didn't like it the first time I saw it either, because I was expecting the immediate impact that many of his other movies had.

    This, like Bringing Out the Dead, and The King of Comedy, get better for me on more viewings.

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