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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Lol pwned
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    Films of people talking aren't inherently less "cinematic" than films consisting mainly of physical action; there are lots of ways to film people talking, some more dynamic than others. His Girl Friday is one of the talkiest films ever made but Hawks keeps his actors in constant motion
    You mean like exactly what Jackson had the actors do in Return Of The King when Gandalf was taking Pippin away, or when Aragon, Legolas, and Gimli were travelling to The Paths Of The Dead, or in the "bring wood & oil" scene with Denethor...?


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    Quote Quoting StuSmallz (view post)
    You mean like exactly what Jackson had the actors do in Return Of The King when Gandalf was taking Pippin away, or when Aragon, Legolas, and Gimli were travelling to The Paths Of The Dead, or in the "bring wood & oil" scene
    Not having seen any of The Lord of the Rings films since 2003, I don't remember the specific scenes you're referring to, but I still feel confident in asserting that Hawks mise en scène is more dynamic and purposeful than Jackson's, especially as the latter relies far more on cutting to guide the spectator's attention to relevant narrative information rather than staging.
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    Mmmhmm. Anyway...
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    You may be right, Skitch. I think he did quite a bit of work with stage as well as adapting stage works to screen. So that would make sense.

    His visual direction seems to be purely functional. Which is...fine. But not really what I personally go to movies for.

    It reminds me of an interview I saw with Peter Bogdanovich on TCM, where he was discussing his favorite films. I forget the exact context of the comment, but at one point he said, "...and to this day, that's all that movies really are. Just people talking."

    And I remember thinking, "gotta disagree with you there, bud."

    The idea of reducing such an incredible visual medium like film down to "it's just people talking" has always felt asinine to me.

    Anyways, my point being, I wonder if Lumet came from a similar school of thought.
    ...I suppose I do agree with you in general about Lumet, since I can't recall many moments in his movies that struck me as being particularly stylish, but that's never really been a problem, because I can't remember ever feeling that his movies needed any more style than they were given. Don't get me wrong, there are movies I've felt that way about before (like Hell Or High Water, for instance), but it's all on a case-by-case basis; for example, I didn't feel there was much of anything particularly "flashy" about the aesthetic of Chinatown, but it didn't hurt the movie at all, because the direction there mostly just needed to clearly convey Towne's writing, the rich period details, and the strength of the cast's performances, which it did very well, so that's all it needed to do to be a great movie.

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    Well I'll be darned...as the last year or twos glut of "assassin girls kick everyones asses" have mostly sucked, The Protege (on Amazon Prime) was pretty good! Micheal Keaton does NOT mail shit in, its worth checking out just for him. Samuel L is excellent as always.

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    The Muppet Movie was a freaking delight and I can't believe I haven't seen it before.

    This will be very hard to beat this year, for first time viewings.
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    Did Lumet ever do any films that had anything interesting going on visually or stylistically? I've seen several and they all seem based around dynamite scripts and performances, but with incredibly boring visual direction.
    Fail-Safe is totally stylish.


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    Prisoners was really good. I need to make a point of seeing the rest of Villeneuve's stuff as I've yet to see a stinker from him.
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    Prisoners was really good. I need to make a point of seeing the rest of Villeneuve's stuff as I've yet to see a stinker from him.
    Villeneuve, rated:

    Un 32 août sur terre (1998) warm
    Maelström (2000) warm
    Polytechnique (2009) warm
    Incendies (2010) mild
    Enemy (2013) frozen
    Arrival (2016) cold
    Blade Runner 2049 (2017) cold
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Prisoners was really good. I need to make a point of seeing the rest of Villeneuve's stuff as I've yet to see a stinker from him.
    He hasn't let me down yet. See everything.

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    Incendies is his worst film by miles and just a cliched indie drama with an absolutely ridiculous ending. Skip that one.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Incendies is his worst film by miles and just a cliched indie drama with an absolutely ridiculous ending. Skip that one.
    Hmm...I dont think Ive seen that one. I've seen all his major projects (I mean like the ones with budgets and name actors), I haven't seen his earliest work stuff.

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    I thought Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    I thought Blade Runner 2049 was fantastic.
    I didn't think I could think a sequel to BR could possibly work and I thought 2049 nailed it. Loved it. All the tones without repeating story, and I didnt figure it out until the end, which, is a rarity for me.

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    What did you not like about Arrival, babydoll?
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    What did you not like about Arrival, babydoll?
    I liked the beginning and end, but thought the middle dragged.
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    Another first time viewing for me...

    The Blues Brothers.

    It was great.
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    That's one of those movies where I'm like, "yeah but how many people died making this" lol

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    That's one of those movies where I'm like, "yeah but how many people died making this" lol
    Apparently fewer than Landis' segment for The Twilight Zone: The Movie, where he killed two Asian kids and Jennifer Jason Leigh's dad.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Another first time viewing for me...

    The Blues Brothers.

    It was great.
    What's really? That's shocking to me. What other blind spots do you have? Here's one of my big ones:

    I've never seen Apocalypse Now.
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    What's really? That's shocking to me. What other blind spots do you have? Here's one of my big ones:

    I've never seen Apocalypse Now.
    Oh sir...

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    Oh sir...

    ...imo the best movie based around the (horrific) Vietnam war.
    Yup. It's, along The Deer Hunter, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, one of the can't miss 'Nam flicks.
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    I Vitelloni (F. Fellini, 1953) ☆
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    Quote Quoting Philip J. Fry (view post)
    Yup. It's, along The Deer Hunter, Platoon and Full Metal Jacket, one of the can't miss 'Nam flicks.
    Yup. I have a harder time with Deer Hunter and Platoon because I feel like those are closer to real...where as I can stomach fictional easier when it comes to real things that happened.

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    Do more people love The Great Escape over Stalag 17 (1953)? Cause I just watched Stalag 17 and I think I prefer that one. J.J. Sefton is more relatable to me as a character and I felt that as fantastic as The Great Escape is Stalag is more realistic.
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