28 Film Discussion Threads Later

[Irish]

"Sirens" (Australia) and "Belle Epoque" (Spain), both from the early 1990s and both worth seeing.

"Wild Orchids" fits on double bill with "9 1/2 weeks" but it's a terrible movie.

If you're considering erotic thrillers, then "Cat People," "Body Heat," "Fatal Attraction," "Basic Instinct," "Jade," "Wild Things," and "Bound."

[Skitch]

Irish do you remember if 9 1/2 Weeks was any good?

[Dukefrukem]

EDIT: If only Spinal were around...

or number8

[Dukefrukem]

If you're considering erotic thrillers, then "Cat People," "Body Heat," "Fatal Attraction," "Basic Instinct," "Jade," "Wild Things," and "Bound."

This list reminds me of Poison Ivy.

[Irish]

Irish do you remember if 9 1/2 Weeks was any good?

I've never seen it!

(But somehow your post reminded me of another film: Blake Edward's "10" with Bo Derek. Also lol "Tarzan the Ape Man" with her, too.)

[Irish]

Also, I dunno if they fit in your scheme, Stalker, but there are scores of shitty teen-driven T&A movies from the 1980s, from the seriously creepy ("Private Tutor") to the fairly innocuous ("Fraternity Vacation") to the more mainstream ("Hardbodies," "Hotdog the Movie").

[Grouchy]

I've been thinking today about sex movies. Movies with 1. unsimulated sex and/or 2. sex as as a primary focus.

I think #1 makes for a very short list while the second parameter makes it massive.

Some that haven't been mentioned:

Last Tango in Paris
Crash
Y Tu Mamá También

[Idioteque Stalker]

I think #1 makes for a very short list while the second parameter makes it massive.

Some that haven't been mentioned:

Last Tango in Paris
Crash
Y Tu Mamá También

Yeah, the parameters could probably be optimized, but you obviously get my drift because all three of these suggestions are home runs.

[Dukefrukem]

I've been thinking today about sex movies. Movies with 1. unsimulated sex

der geschmack von leben has a crazy one as does Caligula.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Irish with some great suggestions. I'd never heard of either Sirens or Belle Epoque but they both look good. I'll add them to the watch list. I think erotic thrillers don't really count, but it's hard to say movies like Basic Instinct or Femme Fatale aren't sex movies.

One parameter I didn't know I had but turns out to be crucial is the "elevated" part (which is obviously subjective, but still). There has to be an arthouse element. I'd much rather watch Stranger By the Lake with my grandma than American Pie, even though the former is far, far more explicit.

Also, I can't believe I forgot The Handmaiden.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Haven't seen Caligula, but that probably fits. I intentionally left out movies like Salo and Antichrist, despite the content, because they're the opposite of erotic.

[Grouchy]

Also, I can't believe I forgot The Handmaiden.

Yeaaaah great one.

I'm a huge fan of Femme Fatale as well but I hesitate to say sex is the primary focus of the film. There are like two big sexy scenes and the rest is more of a heist/thriller movie with De Palma's meta content.

[Idioteque Stalker]

I'm a huge fan of Femme Fatale as well but I hesitate to say sex is the primary focus of the film. There are like two big sexy scenes and the rest is more of a heist/thriller movie with De Palma's meta content.

I'm sure you're right. It's been a long time since I've seen it--I mainly just recall the one scene with the pool table.

Julia Leigh's Sleeping Beauty might qualify.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Also, I dunno if they fit in your scheme, Stalker, but there are scores of shitty teen-driven T&A movies from the 1980s, from the seriously creepy ("Private Tutor") to the fairly innocuous ("Fraternity Vacation") to the more mainstream ("Hardbodies," "Hotdog the Movie").

This is a treasure trove of trash. I approve.

[Morris Schæffer]

What is unsimulated sex? I mean, the sex in Ews was real?

[Irish]

This is a treasure trove of trash. I approve.

I dunno if you've seen it, but if you haven't I'd encourage you to check out Schrader's "Cat People" remake, thriller or no.

The premise is based on sex (the cat people only turn into cats after they copulate, and of course then immediately kill their lovers). The plot involves Malcom McDowell trying to seduce his own sister, played by Nastassja Kinski, because if they both turn into cats then it'll be fine, you see.

[Skitch]

I mean, the sex in Ews was real?

Not that I know of.

[Idioteque Stalker]

I don't think it's real. But people say before his death Kubrick intended those scenes to be much more explicit.

[Skitch]

I don't think it's real. But people say before his death Kubrick intended those scenes to be much more explicit.

Well they finally released [what I believe to be his version?] uncut on blu-ray without those awful cgi people.

[Idioteque Stalker]

Well they finally released [what I believe to be his version?] uncut on blu-ray without those awful cgi people.

What?! I'm so ashamed I wasn't aware of this. I do not deserve my own avatar. Also, my dvd copy of EWS mysteriously disappeared out of my Kubrick collection, so it's time to pick up another one.

[Irish]

my dvd copy of EWS mysteriously disappeared out of my Kubrick collection

maybe grandma "borrowed" it ... ?

[Idioteque Stalker]

Elevated porn ranking:

1. Eyes Wide Shut
2. Last Tango In Paris
3. Stranger by the Lake
4. The Handmaiden
5. Shortbus
6. The Dreamers
7. Love
8. I Am Curious (Yellow)
9. Y Tu Mama Tambien
10. Sleeping Beauty
11. Nymphomaniac
12. Blue Is the Warmest Color
13. Crash
14. In the Realm of the Senses

In just fourteen movies, this list spans from some of my all-time favorite movies to some of my all-time least favorite movies. How about that.

[Morris Schæffer]

Are Shannon Tweed movies eligible? Lol.

[Morris Schæffer]

Not that I know of.

I would imagine Tom wouldn't settle for anything less than the real thing.

[Skitch]

What?! I'm so ashamed I wasn't aware of this. I do not deserve my own avatar. Also, my dvd copy of EWS mysteriously disappeared out of my Kubrick collection, so it's time to pick up another one.

Yep! I got it. Can confirm.

I would imagine Tom wouldn't settle for anything less than the real thing.

HA!