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    I actually feel like Interstellar works at its best UNTIL it tries to add the drama between the father/daughter and having empathy. When it's about human survival and exploration, there's a great sense of wonder, technology, and the best drama about it is having to leave family behind for the sake of the human race.

    But the last half hour is pretty bad.

    Michael Bay movies, outside of Pain & Gain and maybe a few moments of The Island, don't have any of that. There's stock characters that are so unbelievably fake, with forced comedy, that I'll never touch the Transformers series again. Bay has laughably used the same highway sequence three times in his movies. It may have a nice sheen to it is all. His action sequences in Bad Boys 2 were pretty well done, and outside of a neat skydiving scene in one of the Transformers movies, there really isn't a good sequence in any of the big budget movies.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    I actually feel like Interstellar works at its best UNTIL it tries to add the drama between the father/daughter and having empathy. When it's about human survival and exploration, there's a great sense of wonder, technology, and the best drama about it is having to leave family behind for the sake of the human race.

    But the last half hour is pretty bad.
    Yeah, exactly! He's just really bad at drama and I'll admit he excels at structure. But that only worked for me in some of his films like The Prestige and Memento. If I watch a Batman movie I want to meet the character I know and love and that a lot of nerds could write with both hands tied behind their back and he couldn't even make that work outside of a few scenes. Those scenes Lazlo posted were what I was thinking about when I said "embarassing".

    A lot of people used to say about Kubrick that his films were overly clinical and unemotional. I never felt that about any of them outside of a few deliberate choices in 2001 and The Shining. I feel that way about Nolan. He tries to excel at a technical level (without even mastering some of that all that well) but his stuff is just uninvolving and unimaginative.

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    Maybe it's partly Cillian Murphy just acting his fucking eyeballs off, but his reconciliation with his father in INCEPTION moves me significantly whenever I watch it. And, fascinatingly, that plot point is a lie. (Leo reuniting with his kids moves me as well.)

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    Quote Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)
    Maybe it's partly Cillian Murphy just acting his fucking eyeballs off, but his reconciliation with his father in INCEPTION moves me significantly whenever I watch it. And, fascinatingly, that plot point is a lie. (Leo reuniting with his kids moves me as well.)
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    And also, crazily, some beats in THE DARK KNIGHT RISES move me. The scene where Michael Caine confesses what he did to Rachel's letter (again, how much of this is Caine letting loose the sob-choked dialogue), and the scene at the end where Batman tells Gordon that a hero can be anyone, even someone who puts a coat on the shoulders of a young boy to let him know the world hadn't ended. And there's been at least one viewing where my eyes got moist when you learn that Bruce's mansion will become a home for at-risk youth. Grounding all the absurdist superhero theatrics with these tiny moments of real, genuine human kindness.

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    I am a fan of QT, Nolan and Bay. Guess I am the stereotypical white movie fan. Each has made at least one film I love. I am not blind to their faults, but I do roll my eyes at obvious nitpicking.
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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)
    I am a fan of QT, Nolan and Bay. Guess I am the stereotypical white movie fan. Each has made at least one film I love. I am not blind to their faults, but I do roll my eyes at obvious nitpicking.
    Yep. Ditto.

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    Eh, I even shudder to see Nolan included in the same sentence as Tarantino.

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Eh, I even shudder to see Nolan included in the same sentence as Tarantino.
    One of these should keep those shudders away:


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    This is cool! Production notes for Kubrick's Napoleon:

    https://imgur.com/a/F2DBC1j

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Eh, I even shudder to see Nolan included in the same sentence as Tarantino.
    I think Nolan is a better director, and I prefer Wes Anderson over all of them.
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    Quote Quoting Yxklyx (view post)
    This is cool! Production notes for Kubrick's Napoleon:

    https://imgur.com/a/F2DBC1j
    I would love to see it on the big screen. Guess I will just have to rent it or stream it.
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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)
    I would love to see it on the big screen. Guess I will just have to rent it or stream it.
    It never got made, unfortunately.

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    Whoa.


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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    Whoa.

    Think his attempt at making this was pre-Barry Lyndon. Cruise was not an option at that time.

    I believe he was eying Jack Nicholson for the part who was freshly off Easy Rider, so that jives with those pages.

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    Think his attempt at making this was pre-Barry Lyndon. Cruise was not an option at that time.
    That's why it's a funny coincidence, particularly in light of the Cruise-Brimley meme.

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Think his attempt at making this was pre-Barry Lyndon. Cruise was not an option at that time.

    I believe he was eying Jack Nicholson for the part who was freshly off Easy Rider, so that jives with those pages.
    I thought the Napoleon project was old thats why its odd.

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    That's why it's a funny coincidence, particularly in light of the Cruise-Brimley meme.

    That and the Top Gun comparison are pretty damn good memes. 56, are you kidding me?

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    What people don't realize is that Wilford Brimley had to sit in the make-up chair for 4 hours every morning to achieve his classic 'elderly diabetic' look. So committed was he to his craft.
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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    It never got made, unfortunately.
    I misread, I was thinking of the silent flick about Napoleon. A Kubrick version would have been amazing.
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    The Marriage of Maria Braun (1979)

    Going to mull over that ending, because my first, lingering impression of it drops my score off a bit here. After being drawn in by Fassbinder's direction (the gulf between how the synopsis sounds and the actual, engagingly off-kilter execution is wide for me), I am so taken with Maria Braun, both the character's raw intimacy and Hanna Schygulla's supernova of a performance, that the ending feels a tad reductive regarding her. Non-stop sublime otherwise. 8/10
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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)
    I misread, I was thinking of the silent flick about Napoleon. A Kubrick version would have been amazing.
    It's his most famous unmade project. I don't see him mentioned on the thread so far but I thought Pacino was supposed to be the lead, at least until Revolution bombed.

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    It's his most famous unmade project. I don't see him mentioned on the thread so far but I thought Pacino was supposed to be the lead, at least until Revolution bombed.
    Kubrick making a Pacino Napoleon film. Wow. Too bad it didn't happen.
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    Now we have the problem that they tell us Logan is a great movie. Well, it’s a great superhero movie. It still involves people in tights with metal coming out of their hands.
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    I haven't even seen Logan, but this is hilarious.
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