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    Magdalena Viraga is my second Nina Menkes film after being taken with the surreal melancholy of Phantom Love. It's becoming clear that Menkes is a unique, even important, voice in independent cinema. This film in particular is forged in the fires of the stasis; a largely static camera captures ennui and exquisite frames in lengthy shots. Ida, a prostitute, and her portly, darker-skinned fellow prostitute friend, speak in crypto-poetic fashion, simultaneously expressing and obfuscating Ida's plight. Not until the latter half of the film does Ida, or anyone else, emote whatsoever. Dialogue is delivered in highly stilted, monotone cadence. This style often eliminates the emotional pull of the film, forcing the viewer into a more critical reactionary mode, judging the film as visual poetry as opposed to traditional narrative drama. The film is subtitled "Story of a Red Sea Crossing", this of course referring to the parting of the Red Sea that allowed the Jews to escape slavery in Egypt. Given Menkes' devout faith, this would seem to position the narrative as an allegory of sorts for Ida's escape from the world of prostitution. But that reading is too simple; too reductive. Ida seeks love, but squirms with stoic visage as men thrust and pant on top of her. She once loved a man so much she wanted to die, she says, and seeks that level of passion again. Echoes of a man asking to be kissed on the lips haunt her thoughts. A murder takes place that she's accused of and imprisoned for, but she maintains her innocence. This aspect of the narrative is toyed with and made deliberately confusing. After all, this is less about who did what than why.



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    Quote Quoting MadMan (view post)

    Also Morris I can't help but think "UM WUT?" in regard to this:



    Especially when you have better movies and TV shows in your sig :P
    I suppose one can make the argument that The Walking Dead Season 2 has bigger flaws, moments of stupidity than the likes of The Grey, The Descendants and A Separation, but given that one season lasts far longer than any movie, I'm willing to forgive these shortcomings as I don't think they're that debilitating in a TV show. They would be more crippling in a 100+ minute movie. When a TV show is done right, as I obviously think is the case here, I believe that they can be frequently more captivating than a movie with a similar premise as there's more time devoted to everything which in turns means I've actually felt like I spent time with these people and their trials. So it's perhaps not even fair to compare TV shows with movies, but they're both in the sig anyway.
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    [+] closer to next rating / [-] closer to previous rating

    • Dark (S3) ✦✦✦½ [-]
    • Fall (Mann, 2022) ✦✦✦½ [-]
    • Ms. Marvel (S1) ✦½ [+]
    • Dark (S2) ✦✦✦✦
    • Moon Knight (S1) ✦✦½ [-]
    • Get Carter (Hodges, 1971) ✦✦✦½ [+]
    • Prey (Trachtenberg, 2022) ✦✦✦ [-]
    • Black Bird (S1) ✦✦✦✦
    • Better Call Saul (S6) ✦✦✦½ [+]
    • Halo (S1) ✦✦✦ [-]
    • Slow Horses (S1) ✦✦✦½ [+]
    • H4Z4RD (Govaerts, 2022/BE) ✦✦½ [-]
    • Gangs of London (S1) ✦✦✦½ [+]
    • We Own This City (S1) ✦✦✦½ [+]
    • Thor: Love and Thunder (Waititi, 2022) ✦✦ [+]


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    Morris I was really curious since I find The Walking Dead to be really mediocre most of the time. Perhaps the show will vastly improve in Season 3, but I'm skeptical.

    Those posters just prove that every movie could be improved with Sly Stallone starring :P
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    Quote Quoting dreamdead (view post)
    Watched Breillat's The Sleeping Beauty and Fontaine's Coco Before Chanel in a double-bill of French female filmmakers at our university. [...] Fontaine's film is standard issue biopic fare, exploring the fashion designer's life before she became famous. It's decent enough, but in the last five minutes (re: on the period of Chanel's life where she is a success), the filmmaking jumps up in terms of cinematic depth. While a lot of it merely concerns mirrors and mirroring, it has a tangible quality that makes me wish the rest had explored that kind of depth. Alexandre Desplat's music is phenomenal, however.
    The same director made Nathalie, which is pretty solid, but then I'm biased towards anything with Emmanuelle Beart as a stripper.
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    Absolutely LOVED Lesley Manville in Another Year. Don't know why I ever doubt Leigh. He always seems to come through.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    Absolutely LOVED Lesley Manville in Another Year. Don't know why I ever doubt Leigh. He always seems to come through.
    He is the best.

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    Manville's amazing in AY. Perfectly in sync with Leigh's hyper-naturalism.

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    Just watched Battle Royale for the first time in a couple years and this is the first time I've seen the theatrical cut. I'll agree with the consensus and say that the theatrical cut is a better version of the film.
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    I imagine the copy of Battle Royale I got from Netflix was the director's cut. So I don't really know the difference between it and the theatrical cut.
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    I got to see a double bill of "Shaun of the Dead" and "Hot Fuzz" at the FSU Student Cinema tonight, sandwiched around a 2-hr Q&A with Edgar Wright.

    I expected it to be funny (it was), but I was more surprised at how informative Wright was about his process.

    One story that really stood out is when he talked about "the low point" in his directing career.

    When he was directing Spaced, they often shot scenes for different episodes on the same day.

    One day, they decided they had to shoot 12 different scenes from seven different episodes. If that wasn't bad enough, it was at the end of the week so everyone was tired, and on top of that they were filming on a Saturday, and his normal DP didn't work on Saturdays so they had a fill in.

    Wright said that he nearly had a meltdown on set and when everyone went to lunch, he just decided to walk.

    At the end of the lunch break when they couldn't find him, they called him and it turns out he had just kept walking and was three miles down the road. They had to send a car to come get him.

    It was really a great evening over all. He answered every question he could and was a really good sport about it. He even took a stab at the question someone posed that asked him that of all the characters in his films, which would he marry, fuck and kill?

    I've heard this question posed on the net before, but was surprised to hear someone ask it of a director in person.

    His answers, by the way?

    Marry: Liz (from 'Shaun of the Dead' because 'she put up with a lot, so you know she'll stick around even when I fuck up')

    Fuck: Simon Skinner (from 'Hot Fuzz') because, in his words "that accent, those eyes and that mustache would turn even the straightest guys in here"

    Kill: Todd Ingram (from 'Scott Pilgrim') he didn't elaborate on this one much, but I did hear the word 'prick' mentioned


    It was a really great night.

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    Well played, Reverse Shot. Actually had me for a minute.

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    Quote Quoting Boner M (view post)
    Well played, Reverse Shot. Actually had me for a minute.
    Weird that Tony gets more love from the eggheads than Ridley these days. That never would have happened a dozen years ago.
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    Top Gun - 7
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller - 8
    Crimes of the Future - 8
    Videodrome - 9
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    Summer of '42 - 7
    In the Line of Fire - 8
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    Quote Quoting Boner M (view post)
    Well played, Reverse Shot. Actually had me for a minute.
    The first line did make me do a double take. :lol:

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    Quote Quoting Boner M (view post)
    Well played, Reverse Shot. Actually had me for a minute.
    Even for Reverse Shot's backwards opinions, that write-up is pretty dumb.
    Sure why not?

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    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
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    Ridley Scott is a borderline crap director.

    Anywho, saw Like Crazy. It was OK.

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    Quote Quoting Watashi (view post)
    Even for Reverse Shot's backwards opinions, that write-up is pretty dumb.
    u mad

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    Black Hawk Down was the last straw for me. Haven't gone back to him since.
    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
    Upstream Color (Carruth, 2013) ***

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    Quote Quoting Reverse Shot
    The film was A Good Year, and oh what a good year it was—for cinema. Thanks to A Good Year.

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    Tony was always the better Scott.

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    Cue Brightside...

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    Quote Quoting Israfel the Black (view post)
    Tony was always the better Scott.
    I hate to have this conversation again, but I don't think there has been a bigger trifecta of cinematic bullshit than Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II, and Days of Thunder.
    Ratings on a 1-10 scale for your pleasure:

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    Top Gun - 7
    McCabe & Mrs. Miller - 8
    Crimes of the Future - 8
    Videodrome - 9
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    Summer of '42 - 7
    In the Line of Fire - 8
    Passenger 57 - 7
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    Quote Quoting Israfel the Black (view post)
    Ridley Scott is a borderline crap director.

    Anywho, saw Like Crazy. It was OK.
    One and a half outstanding movies over a thirty year career. Nothing borderline about it.

    Quote Quoting Israfel the Black (view post)
    Tony was always the better Scott.
    No.

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    Quote Quoting Boner M (view post)
    u mad
    No.
    Sure why not?

    STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI (Rian Johnson) - 9
    STRONGER (David Gordon Green) - 6
    THE DISASTER ARTIST (James Franco) - 7
    THE FLORIDA PROJECT (Sean Baker) - 9
    LADY BIRD (Greta Gerwig) - 8


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    Quote Quoting Pop Trash (view post)
    I hate to have this conversation again, but I don't think there has been a bigger trifecta of cinematic bullshit than Top Gun, Beverly Hills Cop II, and Days of Thunder.
    Top Gun is a good flick, and I don't mind Days of Thunder. That aside, even if you think these three films are awful, on average, Tony Scott is a more consistently interesting filmmaker than Ridley Scott.

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