28 Film Discussion Threads Later

**Yxklyx** · 08-10-2011, 07:42 PM

Quoting Thirdmango (view post)

Just went back and read some life is beautiful stuff. One of the best decisions I ever or specifically didn't make is how ignorant I was to the movie at the time I watched it. I knew absolutely nothing, so watching the first half I thought it would stay a simple love story, I had no idea the holocaust was coming in the movie and so it was especially impactful in that way.

Exactly the same here - looked like it was going to be a Light Italian Romance.

**MadMan** · 08-10-2011, 07:56 PM

Quoting Spun Lepton (view post)

I LOVE BEER AND WAFFLES.

WE ARE ALL BELGIANS!

**B-side** · 08-10-2011, 09:34 PM

The Dependent deals with the surreal expedition into adulthood and married life of a lonely young man working under the tutelage of an old and ailing man in a hardware store. Preceding Lynch's similarly nightmarish tale of new adult anxiety by 8 years, it often feels like an influence with its thick atmosphere and insular world. Nothing seems to exist outside of the realm of this film, and it feels relentless because of it. All the emphasis is on the characters, but the atmosphere feels like a lingering possible threat. Favio has a fascinating and unique style driven by his manic and dynamic camera work. Fernández, the protagonist, meets a beautiful young woman while out in the streets of Argentina on a delivery, and her enigmatic behavior immediately draws him into her strange world. Her and her mother seem to switch roles between meek child and overly aggressive mother. The mother hasn't left her home since her husband died, who coincidentally resembles Fernández. An element of pitch black humor is introduced later in the film that I won't spoil. The ending is a fully macabre culmination of Fernández's fears. A very neat film.

**SirNewt** · 08-11-2011, 07:08 AM

Finally just caught "A Serious Man" and I'm just left scratching my head. I feel about as frustrated and confused as the main character. Can it be that that was the entire point of the movie?

**Spinal** · 08-11-2011, 07:11 AM

Quoting SirNewt (view post)

Finally just caught "A Serious Man" and I'm just left scratching my head. I feel about as frustrated and confused as the main character. Can it be that that was the entire point of the movie?

I found it to be straightforward, entertaining and satisfying personally. So, I would say no.

**Ezee E** · 08-11-2011, 07:16 AM

Quoting SirNewt (view post)

Finally just caught "A Serious Man" and I'm just left scratching my head. I feel about as frustrated and confused as the main character. Can it be that that was the entire point of the movie?

The thread we have about it has some great discussion on it which may help.

Winston* · 08-11-2011, 07:18 AM

Straightforward? Isn't the point of the film to be intentionally ambiguous? You could see this stuff as divine intervention or just randomness?

**Dead & Messed Up** · 08-11-2011, 07:25 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Straightforward? Isn't the point of the film to be intentionally ambiguous? You could see this stuff as divine intervention or just randomness?

It's straightforward about its ambiguity. We know that will be the subject from the first scene. There is no doubt that all is in doubt.

Winston* · 08-11-2011, 07:32 AM

Quoting Dead & Messed Up (view post)

It's straightforward about its ambiguity. We know that will be the subject from the first scene. There is no doubt that all is in doubt.

So you kind of are supposed to be as confused as the main character.

**Spinal** · 08-11-2011, 07:35 AM

The themes are expressed pretty clearly. It's basically laid out in the dentist scene.

Winston* · 08-11-2011, 07:36 AM

Just tell me if God exists or not, Spinal!

**SirNewt** · 08-11-2011, 07:41 AM

Quoting Spinal (view post)

The themes are expressed pretty clearly. It's basically laid out in the dentist scene.

For sure. The idea of the chaotic universe leaving man at a loss with religion and science inadequate to explain its cruelty is pretty classic material. Quiet a few wagon wheels have dug that rut. I guess I expected more from the Coens.

I don't mean that disparagingly. The film is masterfully made. I just come away from a Coen movie with some new insight usually.

**Spinal** · 08-11-2011, 07:52 AM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

Just tell me if God exists or not, Spinal!

What does your heart tell you?

Winston* · 08-11-2011, 08:04 AM

Quoting Spinal (view post)

What does your heart tell you?

Can't say. If God does exist, I don't want St. Peter's evidence for my damnation to come from Match Cut transcripts.

**Arthur Seaton** · 08-11-2011, 05:55 PM

The Association of Black Women Historians is not a fan of The Help.

I think the movie looks like crap.

**Mara** · 08-11-2011, 05:57 PM

Quoting Arthur Seaton (view post)

I think the movie looks like crap.

The book was crap.

**Mara** · 08-11-2011, 06:04 PM

Quoting Arthur Seaton (view post)

The Association of Black Women Historians is not a fan of The Help.

That's a pretty good read, actually. It brought up a few of my issues with the book.

**baby doll** · 08-11-2011, 06:22 PM

Quoting Winston* (view post)

If God does exist, I don't want St. Peter's evidence for my damnation to come from Match Cut transcripts.

Damnation is a never-ending thread about the internal logic of Inception.

**Mara** · 08-11-2011, 06:25 PM

Quoting baby doll (view post)

Damnation is a never-ending thread about the internal logic of Inception.

baby doll made a funny!

**MadMan** · 08-11-2011, 06:48 PM

I talked to God yesterday. Yep, God does exist. Now if only I could prove it...:P

**Arthur Seaton** · 08-11-2011, 10:31 PM

Quoting Mara (view post)

baby doll made a funny!

Even a stopped clock is right twice a day.

**D_Davis** · 08-11-2011, 11:25 PM

Quoting Irish (view post)

Also:
- The Lathe of Heaven (1980, based on Ursula Leguin's novel)
- Brainstorm (1983)
- Dreamscape (1984)

Among many others, including:

His name is Charles Render, and he is a psychoanalyst, and a mechanic of dreams. A Shaper. In a warm womb of metal, his patients dream their neuroses, while Render, intricately connected to their brains, dreams with them, makes delicate adjustments, and ultimately explains and heals. Her name is Eileen Shallot, a resident in psychiatry. She wants desperately to become a Shaper, though she has been blind from birth. Together, they will explore the depths of the human mind -- and the terrors that lurk therein

It's a SF convention as old as the genre.

**Derek** · 08-12-2011, 05:04 AM

Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)

Is there a 'Stupidest Thing You've Ever Heard About Movies' thread (or something along those lines) buried on this site? Because I heard something a couple months ago that still pisses me off for not only how stupid it was, but how disrespectful it was.

Is there an unwritten "Never Write Cliffhanging Posts So That People Have to Ask You to Complete Your Thoughts" law at MatchCut? If not, let's start one now. Drives me bonkers.

**Ivan Drago** · 08-12-2011, 05:10 AM

Quoting Derek (view post)

Is there an unwritten "Never Write Cliffhanging Posts So That People Have to Ask You to Complete Your Thoughts" law at MatchCut? If not, let's start one now. Drives me bonkers.

:shrug: Sorry. Found the closest thing to it anyway.

**Derek** · 08-12-2011, 05:13 AM

Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)

:shrug: Sorry. Found the closest thing to it anyway.

It's okay - yours seemed unintentional.

It's just a pet peeve of mine when posters need people to inquire before posting what they already wanted to say. Out with it people, it's a message board. Fortunately, this is rarely an issue here at MC.

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