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    Well, I didn't say it's not a funny film, or that it's a bad thing that Murray's character is an asshole (he's the best part of it, actually- it's just that the movie knows it, and uses him to the detriment of other factors). But if it's not going to do anything with the sexual/religious imagery, why even bring it up? Stuff like the Cardinal's visit, Ray and Winston's theological conversation, the ghost-BJ, the gatekeeper/keymaster thing, all feel blatantly allegorical to me, and yet they could've been excised and the movie wouldn't have been any worse off for it. I agree that 'depth' is a misleading term and it's not exactly lack of it that bothered me. I guess I just don't feel like Ghostbusters is anything special- it didn't particularly speak to me, and I don't feel the need to see it again.

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    Hey people, I may said that Ghostbusters isn't my #1 comedy of the 80s, but at least I didn't give it a 6 :P

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    Rowland I think you would like Planet of the Vampires. Quite a bit, maybe even more than me.

    Wild At Heart was indeed crazy, and I loved the Wizard of Oz and Elvis references. I think at this point Nicholas Cage is one of my favorite actors-I just wish he'd stop going into debt so he's forced to make crappy movies I don't want to see. Laura Dern is absolutely gorgeous in this, but I've had a crush on her since Jurassic Park. Five movies in, and I haven't seen a bad one yet from David Lynch. His sense of pup style in this movie is remarkable.
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    Blood and Black Lace 7/10
    Twitch of the Death Nerve (aka A Bay of Blood) 7/10
    Shock 7/10
    Rabid Dogs 7/10
    Black Sabbath (American Cut) 6/10
    Whip and the Body 6/10
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    Quote Quoting StanleyK (view post)
    Well, I didn't say it's not a funny film, or that it's a bad thing that Murray's character is an asshole (he's the best part of it, actually- it's just that the movie knows it, and uses him to the detriment of other factors). But if it's not going to do anything with the sexual/religious imagery, why even bring it up? Stuff like the Cardinal's visit, Ray and Winston's theological conversation, the ghost-BJ, the gatekeeper/keymaster thing, all feel blatantly allegorical to me, and yet they could've been excised and the movie wouldn't have been any worse off for it. I agree that 'depth' is a misleading term and it's not exactly lack of it that bothered me. I guess I just don't feel like Ghostbusters is anything special- it didn't particularly speak to me, and I don't feel the need to see it again.
    Religion always crops up in cataclysmic or armageddon scenarios, but the film isn't attempting to say anything specifically deep about religion--in fact, it essentially nips the very idea in the bud: the resolution to Ray and Winston's conversation first states that every religion has an end-of-world scenario and second Ray cuts it short intentionally because it's too large a concept for them to grasp: religion can't define this (just like the cardinal) or provide any comfort (naturally), so let's get back to the paranormal. Turns out it's just some crazy lady named Gozer and a large marshmallow man. That wasn't so bad.
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    Quote Quoting Spun Lepton (view post)
    Black Sabbath (European Cut) 8/10
    Black Sabbath (American Cut) 6/10
    I forget, what are the differences?
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    Quote Quoting Rowland (view post)
    I forget, what are the differences?
    About 2/10.

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    Quote Quoting Rowland (view post)
    I forget, what are the differences?
    Karloff's links are played tongue-in-cheek in the European cut. Played more seriously in the American cut.

    The order of the stories is different. European cut is, "The Telephone," "The Wurdalak," then "A Drop of Water." American cut is (I think, it's been a while), "A Drop of Water," "The Telephone," then "The Wurdalak." Essentially putting the strongest story first.

    Wikipedia says there are some edits to the stories themselves, but it's been so long since I saw the American cut, I don't recall.
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    I have mid-year catch-up going on, so these are my weekend possibilities, depending on my mood and whatnot:

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    Quote Quoting Spun Lepton (view post)
    Karloff's links are played tongue-in-cheek in the European cut. Played more seriously in the American cut.

    The order of the stories are different. European cut is, "The Telephone," "The Wurdalak," then "A Drop of Water." American cut is (I think, it's been a while), "A Drop of Water," "The Telephone," then "The Wurdalak." Essentially putting the strongest story first.

    Wikipedia says there are some edits to the stories themselves, but it's been so long since I saw the American cut, I don't recall.
    Ahh yes. The European cut is definitely the one I refer to when I consider it a favorite Bava of mine. Looking back at our Bava Consensus thread from a few years back, which only about a dozen people contributed to, I'm surprised by how underrated it is.

    I'm glad we agree on Baron Blood, and I would have agreed about The Whip and the Body years ago, but I'm convinced I need to give it another shot.
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    Quote Quoting Rowland (view post)
    I have mid-year catch-up going on, so these are my weekend possibilities, depending on my mood and whatnot:

    The Eagle
    I've got this to check out, too. Slant liked it, so I decided to give it a chance. Plus, I kinda have a thing for movies set in this general period.
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    8 Mile was pretty good. True, it's a completely generic underdog story, shot and edited with little imagination. But I like Eminem, he's actually a pretty decent performer, and as a semi-autobiographical story, this doesn't feel at all like a vanity project, but an honest, heartfelt attempt to exorcise some demons and share his pain with the world- in a way, a continuation of his music. Also, the rapping was all-around pretty impressive.

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    Quote Quoting Brightside (view post)
    I've got this to check out, too. Slant liked it, so I decided to give it a chance. Plus, I kinda have a thing for movies set in this general period.
    Yeah, praise from Gonzalez, Uhlich, Hoberman, and Edelstein convinced me to give it a shot.
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    /48 Hrs./ (Hill) ***½
    The Extraordinary Adventures of Adèle Blanc-Sec (Besson) ***
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    Man, Richard Curtis scripts run the gamut from enjoyable fluff to insufferable mugging and "zingers." Four Weddings and a Funeral is no exception, and the first half hour was painful as everyone struggled to define their characters' principal mannerism. After that point, it settles down a bit, but the best bit is the funeral segment, where regret and pathos actually come through, helped by John Hannah's work. And Kristin Scott Thomas is luminous, as per usual. But we know nothing about Hugh Grant's character (job, desires, etc.), so his Everyman just feels so blank.
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    A short history of notable figures that have been labeled 'asshole' by StanleyK:

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    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    A short history of notable figures that have been labeled 'asshole' by StanleyK:

    Peter Venkman
    Buster Keaton
    Barry Lyndon
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    Buster Keaton doesn't fit.

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    Watching this latest Street Fighter movie. M. Bison just ripped a baby out of a pregnant woman with his bare hands.

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    Haha, one of the non-Will.I.Am Black Eyed Peas is in this.

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    "You see your father has been the milk of my buisness...but even milk has an expiration date" - Awesome one-liner.

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    Haha, one of the non-Will.I.Am Black Eyed Peas is in this.
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    Coming to America (Landis, 1988) **
    The Beach Bum (Korine, 2019) *1/2
    Us (Peele, 2019) ***1/2
    Fugue (Smoczynska, 2018) ***1/2
    Prisoners (Villeneuve, 2013) ***1/2
    Shadow (Zhang, 2018) ***
    Oslo, August 31st (J. Trier, 2011) ****
    Climax (Noé, 2018) **1/2
    Fighting With My Family (Merchant, 2019) **
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    That movie is worth watching just for everything Chris Klein says and does in it. I don't understand how it's not a more notorious, meme-y thing, * la Nic Cage in Wicker Man.
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