28 Film Discussion Threads Later

[Dukefrukem]

That's some kind of heresy where I come from. Picard? Really?

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I was mostly joking about the ratings, although you're the first person I've ever come across who called Khan overrated and thought Search for Spock was the best of the series.

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Yes Picard is the superior officer.

And I should say that I absolutely love the ending to Khan and how it ties with the Search for Spock. I just don't care for first half.

[Qrazy]

I have a much more simple method: if the movie is good, I like it. If I don't like the movie, it's because it isn't good.

Since as you said all forms of appraisal are subjective, I don't see the point of separating your emotional reaction to the film from its formal qualities. It's the same damn movie.

They aren't all subjective in the same way. And you aren't separating your emotional reaction to the film from its formal qualities. What you're doing is recognizing that certain qualities in a work which are distinctly personal to you... like a film which addresses a fear of water and thus connects with you because you also fear water has little to do with the quality of the work. That aspect may make the film your favorite film, but it doesn't make it the director's most accomplished film.

Your method is too simple and you know it isn't true. If you like or dislike a movie there may be many reasons other than the fact that it is or isn't good. Perhaps it was a first viewing and you'll change your mind later, perhaps you viewed it with someone who mocked it throughout thus coloring your judgment, perhaps a character reminded you of your ex-girlfriend and you thought Fuck this Shit as a result, and on and on. You are suggesting an absolute quality to your own subjective evaluations which isn't there. Some aspects of a work can be appraised by the collective subjectivity (what we tend to term objectivity) while other aspects are more personally subjective (nostalgia).

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Thank god, because your value judgments are the worst.

Yeah, well, your mother isn't very discerning when evaluating potential sexual partners.

[Qrazy]

Yeah, well, your mother isn't very discerning when evaluating potential sexual partners.

Are you referring to his father?

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Are you referring to his father?

No, see, the joke was that I was trying to imply that his mother was a whore, but in less blunt terms. Clearly my wit is too complex for your feeble brain.

[Irish]

You wouldn't know from his use of the frame, but apparently John Ford wasn't all that taken with widescreen. The Horse Soldiers was a pleasant surprise.

What's the most mystifying about this movie -- aside from how it could be such a pile of shit considering the cast and director -- is that it's sandwiched in time right in between two of Ford's best: The Searchers and Liberty Valance.]

Edit: I did think the rest of your take on it was interesting, though.

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What's the most mystifying about this movie -- aside from how it could be such a pile of shit considering the cast and director -- is that it's sandwiched in time right in between two of Ford's best: The Searchers and Liberty Valance.

Edit: I did think the rest of your take on it was interesting, though.

Ha, fair enough. Maybe I just watched it in the right mood or something, but it was a great time.

Somewhat related, I'm not quite sure why I've settled on Ford for this recent obsessive streak. I've only watched one foreign language film since the 2nd. I've needed Ford's trademark warmth lately to help me keep spirits high during some intense personal problems, I guess.

[Dukefrukem]

No, see, the joke was that I was trying to imply that his mother was a whore, but in less blunt terms. Clearly my wit is too complex for your feeble brain.

So what does it your say about your brain not able to detect his joke about relating the obvious connection with his mother to his father?

[Spinal]

Didn't mean to trigger the best vs. favorite rating discussion again. I will try to exercise more responsible posting in the future.

[Dukefrukem]

Didn't mean to trigger the best vs. favorite rating discussion again. I will try to exercise more responsible posting in the future.

I accept your apology.

I am off to my soccer game gents.

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So what does it your say about your brain not able to detect his joke about relating the obvious connection with his mother to his father?

I got that, but I thought he thought that I was implying that his father was ugly or something. We've ruined my brilliant joke with all this post-joke analysis.

[Irish]

I got that, but I thought he thought that I was implying that his father was ugly or something. We've ruined my brilliant joke with all this post-joke analysis.

Not my favorite joke of yours, but probably the best one.

[Russ]

Didn't mean to trigger the best vs. favorite rating discussion again. I will try to exercise more responsible posting in the future.

I do believe this is probably my favorite post ever by you. But it's simply not the best. And, while I think I definitely prefer this post, it just doesn't hold a candle to this.

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Not my favorite joke of yours, but probably the best one.

It was OK. 88/100.

[Irish]

It was OK. 88/100.

Or, on Duke's scale: 88/38 +/- 3%

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Or, on Duke's scale: 88/38 +/- 3%

:lol:

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I kid because I love, guys. No homo. Well, actually, I haven't seen what Duke looks like, so maybe homo. Maybe.

[StanleyK]

Your method is too simple and you know it isn't true.

Nope; but whateva, if separating best from favorite keeps you happy, then we can just agree to disagree.

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You crazy weirdo.

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I've just seen Possession and wow, what a wonderfully, gloriously insane movie. Anna's breakdown at the church and the train station, Heinrich randomly twitching on the staircase, the worst PI doing the worst tailing job ever... excellent stuff, alternately hilarious and horrifying, and much like most great comedies, sometimes both at the same time. I really don't know what to make of the ending, to be honest; the film is utterly confounding and maybe just a tad too long, but thanks to the wacked-out cinematography (perfect for representing the character's frame of mind) and dialogue (utterly charming in how hard it tries to be profound while still appearing to be gibberish), it's constantly entertaining.

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Yeah, well, your mother isn't very discerning when evaluating potential sexual partners.

:cry:

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Dude. Your 10 for L'Atalante is almost enough for me to overlook this, but uh, what's going on here?

Says this guy -

The Time to Live and the Time to Die (Hou, 1986) **½

This is like some payback for some mediocre French film I didn't love, isn't it?

Glad you liked A Summer at Grandpa's well enough. Are you going to watch Dust in the Wind next?

[Sven]

Some days (like today) I think the only two Woody Allen movies needed are Broadway Danny Rose and Deconstructing Harry. I mean, I know he's got other great films, but those two are, like... indispensable.

[Dukefrukem]

Or, on Duke's scale: 88/38 +/- 3%

:lol:

I kid because I love, guys. No homo. Well, actually, I haven't seen what Duke looks like, so maybe homo. Maybe.

www.facebook.com/Dukefrukem

[Derek]

Says this guy -

This is like some payback for some mediocre French film I didn't love, isn't it?

Glad you liked A Summer at Grandpa's well enough. Are you going to watch Dust in the Wind next?

Actually, just finished City of Sadness, never picked up Dust in the Wind. Will post thoughts on one or two Hou's asap.

Some days (like today) I think the only two Woody Allen movies needed are Broadway Danny Rose and Deconstructing Harry. I mean, I know he's got other great films, but those two are, like... indispensable.

Haven't seen BDR (on my radar, obviously) and I do like Deconstructing Harry more than most MCers (it's inexplicably underrated here it seems), but it's posts like this that make you indispensible, Sven. There is likely no one else on this planet who shares this sentiment.

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Actually, just finished City of Sadness, never picked up Dust in the Wind. Will post thoughts on one or two Hou's asap.

I can't wait!

Haven't seen BDR (on my radar, obviously) and I do like Deconstructing Harry more than most MCers (it's inexplicably underrated here it seems), but it's posts like this that make you indispensible, Sven. There is likely no one else on this planet who shares this sentiment.

Deconstructing Harry is the Woody film that people either love or people hate. Not too much middle ground with that one.

[Boner M]

Found Come on Children consistently interesting, albeit more for anthropological reasons than cinematic ones. It has some beautiful interstitial shots of the surroundings of the country house where the titular children dwell, but the human subjects are all too aimless for King to really shape a compelling narrative from them, like he did in Warrendale and A Married Couple. Still, it's a consistently beguiling 'hanging out' movie as balmakboor pointed out, the Dylan-wannabe kid with the cool hats rules, and I kinda fell in love with all the girls in the bunch.

Dying at Grace later this week.