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    And I'll take Pale Rider over Josey Wales for non-Unforgiven Eastwood westerns.

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    Quote Quoting Derek (view post)
    And I'll take Pale Rider over Josey Wales for non-Unforgiven Eastwood westerns.
    I'll take High Plains Drifter because Pale Rider and Josey Wales both suck.
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    The Hobbit - C-
    The Comedy - D+
    Kings of the Road - C+
    The Odd Couple - B
    Red Rock West - C-
    The Hunger Games - D-
    Prometheus - C
    Tangled - C+

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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    I may have missed one or two, but these seem to be the candidates for Scorsese to remake (assuming remaking a feature five times is off the table):

    What's a Nice Girl Like You Doing in a Place Like This?
    It's Not Just You, Murray!
    The Big Shave
    American Boy
    Mirror, Mirror
    Bad
    Life Lessons
    The Key to Reserva

    I haven't seen most of those, but I did like Life Lessons a lot.
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    I'll take High Plains Drifter because Pale Rider and Josey Wales both suck.
    Pale Rider is pretty great actually. I've never seen Josey Wales.
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    First Obstruction: You may not use Leonardo DiCaprio
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    I'll take High Plains Drifter because Pale Rider and Josey Wales both suck.
    You couldn't be more wrong about Josey Wales, but you couldn't be more right about High Plains Drifter. The contrast is hurting my brain.

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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    I'll take High Plains Drifter because Pale Rider and Josey Wales both suck.
    You started so right and ended so wrong.

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    Quote Quoting balmakboor (view post)
    The Big Shave
    I don't even know what a full-length Trier remake of this would turn out like.

    EDIT: I suppose a short version (straight remake) would still be pretty brutal in Trier's hands.

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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    I'll take High Plains Drifter because Pale Rider and Josey Wales both suck.
    What I like about you, Qrazy, is how you never give up, no matter how wrong you are. One day, you'll make it.
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    Life Lessons is practically a full-length movie. Just less then an hour I think.

    The Key To Reserva and The Big Shave seem like the easiest options. I figure he'll just to a new film entirely.

    I would figure he'd play with different formats of film. 3D, 16MM... Maybe a straight shot...

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    Quote Quoting soitgoes... (view post)
    I don't even know what a full-length Trier remake of this would turn out like.

    EDIT: I suppose a short version (straight remake) would still be pretty brutal in Trier's hands.
    Scorsese will direct each version, Trier will just dictate the terms.
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    Trouble the Water was an interesting documentary in the way that it not only brought into focus the racism and governmental negligence that took place during the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, but in the damaging effect of capitalism as an ideology, the American education system, the justice system, etc. Kim and her husband, as well as many left devastated in the community, find a sense of purpose in the charity they are able to provide for others, and in the bond they form with those who are suffering with them. They form relationships and come to the aid of even complete strangers in a way the government fails to do. Prior to that they had been toiling in a ritually ignored area of the country, dealing drugs and trying to get by. They are all in a daily fight to survive and improve their lives post-Katrina, yet through that struggle, their happiest moments seem to emerge, and the only time the smiles fade and the spirits falter is when they're trying to secure money or security from FEMA, or when they learn of the shortcomings of a government that pretends to have their best interest at heart. One of the most shocking revelations comes when Kim's brother meets up with them in Memphis. Having been in a county jail during Katrina, he recounts the story, accompanied by photographic evidence by the filmmakers, of the prisoners not being told that Katrina was coming, and being abandoned by every employee of the prison, guards and warden included, left with no food or water, to die like rats.

    Where the film falters is in portraying Katrina itself, and this has more to do with the effectiveness of Spike Lee's When the Levees Broke. There is no angle of the actual hurricane in which that documentary didn't cover completely, and because of that, about a third of Trouble the Water feels like a shallow retreading of ground that has been thoroughly covered, even with the first person narrative and the reliance almost exclusively of very raw self-shot footage during the storm. Despite this, the film is very effective as a searing examination of the effectiveness of our current political systems, and an almost Marxist position on the value of community and philanthropy in America.

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    Quote Quoting Raiders (view post)
    Scorsese will direct each version, Trier will just dictate the terms.
    This is what I get for not using my reading skills.

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    Quote Quoting soitgoes... (view post)
    You started so right and ended so wrong.
    Clint Eastwood is a bad director.
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    Clint Eastwood is a bad director.
    I wouldn't claim him to be a great director, but I would say he's made a number of great films. He's also made a bunch of crap, but I don't think it's fair to label him a bad director.

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    Clint Eastwood is a bad director.
    Who yet has still made great films on occasion. It's almost as if there were other elements in a film other than the direction.
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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
    At last, an American remake of a foreign film that I'm actually looking forward to.
    I don't know if I'd go that far, but I'm bemused that Trier is remaking his own film about making another director remake one of his own films. Maybe it'll be a trilogy, and in the third, Leth and Scorsese will make Trier remake The Five Obstructions five times according to various arbitrary rules.
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    It's not hard to see why Ford sometimes considered The Fugitive the best thing he did. The usual Fordian moral ambiguity is taken to its most extreme here with a murderer dying a martyr and the titular fugitive being no less a criminal than those he blesses. Fonda's priest character is no longer a true priest not only because he can't identify as one where he is due to them being prosecuted in a Mexico currently experiencing a revolution, but because of the things he's being compelled to do due to the circumstances he finds himself in and the obligations he feels he has as a man of God. The bookends of the film are Ford at his absolute best, and this is the best I've seen Fonda. Where the hell is the DVD for this?
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    If we're gonna give B-side grief for Tony Scott, I can't really let this fly by unannounced.
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    If we're gonna give B-side grief for Tony Scott, I can't really let this fly by unannounced.
    I'll admit I've been in a pretty shit mood over the weekend. The rating partially reflects a resistance to candy-coloured surfaces and general frivolity. Even so, none of the satire felt particularly sharp, and the broad humour (popcorn explosions/pipe whistles during kisses, Loverdoll being being mobbed by young women, etc) didn't feel sustained. I liked the fourth-wall-breaking moments. Not much else.

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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Who yet has still made great films on occasion. It's almost as if there were other elements in a film other than the direction.
    His best films are merely above average. B- material at best.
    The Princess and the Pilot - B-
    Playtime (rewatch) - A
    The Hobbit - C-
    The Comedy - D+
    Kings of the Road - C+
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    Quote Quoting Qrazy (view post)
    My best posts are merely above average. B- material at best.
    Fixed.

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    I think Unforgiven is pretty masterful.

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    Quote Quoting Brightside (view post)
    It's not hard to see why Ford sometimes considered The Fugitive the best thing he did. The usual Fordian moral ambiguity is taken to its most extreme here with a murderer dying a martyr and the titular fugitive being no less a criminal than those he blesses. Fonda's priest character is no longer a true priest not only because he can't identify as one where he is due to them being prosecuted in a Mexico currently experiencing a revolution, but because of the things he's being compelled to do due to the circumstances he finds himself in and the obligations he feels he has as a man of God. The bookends of the film are Ford at his absolute best, and this is the best I've seen Fonda. Where the hell is the DVD for this?
    I'd be inclined to say that this is Ford's best looking film, maybe The Searchers, and the reason is Gabriel Figueroa. He worked on a handful, albeit some of the best, Buñuel films, but otherwise I feel he's a relative unknown. I discovered his work accidentally through Emilio Fernández films, which you might want to check out.

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    Quote Quoting Derek (view post)
    Fixed.
    Way to make it personal when I was only insulting a director Derek. You have no class.

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