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    Quote Quoting C. Robert Cargill
    When Scott and I were making DOCTOR STRANGE, the vast majority of Marvel's notes were about deepening character, strengthening the story, and asking us if we could "make it weirder."

    Anyone who thinks Marvel is only trying to make theme park rides is being unjust and cynical.
    Quote Quoting C. Robert Cargill
    Mark Twain once said of Jane Austen "Everytime I read ‘Pride and Prejudice’ I want to dig her up and beat her over the skull with her own shin-bone.”

    Sometimes even the greatest artists can talk shit about work as immortal as their own. They're allowed to be wrong.
    https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status...60556608700418

    https://twitter.com/Massawyrm/status...69631152480256

    The guy who wrote "Doctor Strange" subtweeted Martin Scorsese.

    (Emphasis mine)
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    Quote Quoting baby doll (view post)
    DC comic book movies, obviously.
    ffs what?

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    Ha, poor beatdown MCU employees. Must be tough having someone not like what you sell.
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    Marty can think whatever he wants. Just make mob movies please, I'm not interested in his analysis of other films.

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    Pity they didn't listen to the notes then. That thing is boring.
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    Also I havent seen this take, but isnt kind of a bad look to be criticizing other films when you're sorta in the process of promoting your (mostly) DTV film?

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    "What do you think of the MCU?" is the gotcha question for anyone in the industry over 40.

    (Cf: Ethan Hawke stirring up shit months ago when asked, more or less, the same question, and giving a similarly reasonable answer.)

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    ffs what?
    Well, he did sign on to produce Joker.
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    Next week: the 300 word follow up when someone from the trades asks Scorsese if he knows about the "blowback," reprinted across 500 comic book movie sites.

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    I don't care what Marty said. It's his opinion, he has a right to it, I like comic book movies, yey for obvious click bait that everyone fell for, excuse me I'm too busy viewing horror movies this month.
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    Quote Quoting transmogrifier (view post)
    Ha, poor beatdown MCU employees. Must be tough having someone not like what you sell.
    It's worse than that.

    For years guys like Derrickson and Cargill have had shills and fanboys blowing smoke about Marvel films, and here comes somebody with an impeccable professional pedigree who basically says, nope, you're all just a buncha popcorn salesmen.

    (Personally, I've been cackling like a lunatic all afternoon.)

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    Quote Quoting Wryan (view post)
    RANK THE MCU BY CINEMA-NESS, MATCH-CUT.

    NOW.
    Did it play in a cinema?
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    I dont care about any of this.
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
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    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    The thing is, I don’t see what Scorsese said as being necessarily a “these movies are bad” statement.

    He’s just saying it’s not what he’s into, no?

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    He specifically said "that's not cinema," which is probably what most people are going nuts over.
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    I dont care about any of this.
    Not one bit.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    The thing is, I don’t see what Scorsese said as being necessarily a “these movies are bad” statement.

    He’s just saying it’s not what he’s into, no?
    I take it that way, but even if it's not that at all and hes completely blasting MCU...I still would care as much about his opinion as I would Uwe Boll.

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    Quote Quoting Milky Joe (view post)
    He specifically said "that's not cinema," which is probably what most people are going nuts over.
    Also "that's a theme park ride."

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    I take it that way, but even if it's not that at all and hes completely blasting MCU...I still would care as much about his opinion as I would Uwe Boll.
    Eh, nah, I actually care a lot what Scorsese has to say about any movie. But him equating MCU films with roller coaster rides is a perfect comparison and doesn't bother me at all. He also says they are well made and that the actors all do a tremendous effort emoting in front of tennis balls and green screens.

    Honestly, what's there to get upset about? I get that James Gunn is sad because he's the closest thing to an auteur currently working in the MCU, but... come on.

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    Joss Whedon responded too.
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    Quote Quoting D_Davis (view post)
    Uwe Boll movies > all Marvel U movies
    Quote Quoting TGM (view post)
    I work in grocery. I have not gotten sick. My fellow employees have not gotten sick. If the virus were even remotely as contagious as its being presented as, why haven’t entire store staffs who come into contact with hundreds of people per day, thousands per week, all falling ill in mass nationwide?

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    Quote Quoting Grouchy (view post)
    Eh, nah, I actually care a lot what Scorsese has to say about any movie.
    After his top 100 must see movies list or whatever, I just don't care. He and I don't share much taste in film. Which is fine! Its like one of your friends raving about a thai restaurant when you don't much care for thai.

    But him equating MCU films with roller coaster rides is a perfect comparison and doesn't bother me at all. He also says they are well made and that the actors all do a tremendous effort emoting in front of tennis balls and green screens.

    Honestly, what's there to get upset about?
    Totally agree.

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    Quote Quoting Skitch (view post)
    you don't much care for thai.
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    Scorsese isn’t exactly a titan of cinema for me. Wolf of Wall Street IS hilarious, though. Clearly his pinnacle, but is that not CINEMA to him? Good! Throw his “cinema” in the trash. Give me the good stuff.

    Oh, but most Marvel films are trash, too. I just don’t get why he thinks he’s better?

    If cinema is really about real people and emotions, then why all the gangster movies and psychopaths? Scorsese talks like he’s Ozu. What a confused person. Oh, and he probably doesn’f think Bresson is cinema, because Bresson doesn’t care about emoting?

    NEXT!
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    Quote Quoting Peng (view post)
    That was just an example, not my personal taste! I love everything.

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    Quote Quoting PURPLE (view post)
    Scorsese isn’t exactly a titan of cinema for me. Wolf of Wall Street IS hilarious, though. Clearly his pinnacle, but is that not CINEMA to him? Good! Throw his “cinema” in the trash. Give me the good stuff.

    Oh, but most Marvel films are trash, too. I just don’t get why he thinks he’s better?

    If cinema is really about real people and emotions, then why all the gangster movies and psychopaths? Scorsese talks like he’s Ozu. What a confused person. Oh, and he probably doesn’f think Bresson is cinema, because Bresson doesn’t care about emoting?

    NEXT!
    Eh... Troll alert, I guess? If that's your real opinion, I'm genuinely sorry.

    I chuckle a bit that I think Gunn and Whedon just embraced the chance to address Marty in virtual conversation.

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