28 Film Discussion Threads Later

[megladon8]

Even being a huge fan of the Nolan films, I find it hard to understand how someone could think The Dark Knight was an improvement on Batman Begins with regards to feeling overly self-important.


For the record, I can totally understand Sven's liking the Schumacher and Burton films better than the Nolan films. It's not "contrarianism" as so many seem to accuse Sven of sinking to - they really seem more up his alley both stylistically and tonally. When I look at the comic books (and the versions of popular heroes that he most enjoys) I totally see a more stylistically adventurous film like Batman Returns or even Batman Forever being higher on his list than the admittedly self-serious, dark, and loosely "realistic" version that Nolan committed to film.

I don't mean to commit the same crime of speaking for Sven. My intention is only to say that his opinions on the series' totally make sense.


Oh, and have I mentioned yet how animated Batman is the way to go?

[MacGuffin]

I also would've known what you meant if you had used the word "fraud," which benefits not only from being an actual word, but also takes less time and energy to type as well as circumvents the chance that someone will give you a ribbing for making up a completely unnecessary word, saving more time, patience, and good grace in the process.

I went ahead and fixed it for you.

[Sven]

Thanks for the defense, meg. Really, I think it's more a matter of not liking Schumacher's film more so much as it is disliking it less. And certainly you are savvy to my tastes: I definitely navigate toward zany style and adventure, at least moreso than I do to somber character stuff. In this regard, you are correct. However, I think I could argue that Burton's films even work better as films, without my own predilections to spoil the sauce.

But this has been said many times before.

[Sven]

I went ahead and fixed it for you.

Don't fix it for me, man. Fix it for you.

[megladon8]

Thanks for the defense, meg. Really, I think it's more a matter of not liking Schumacher's film more so much as it is disliking it less. And certainly you are savvy to my tastes: I definitely navigate toward zany style and adventure, at least moreso than I do to somber character stuff. In this regard, you are correct. However, I think I could argue that Burton's films even work better as films, without my own predilections to spoil the sauce.

But this has been said many times before.

Understood

I guess my overall point was that I take great issue with anyone stating that you dislike Nolan's films as some kind of contrarian stance.

A statement like that would be, to me, as silly and insulting as if you were to state that my liking them is some kind of attempt to be popular and like what everyone else likes.

[Sven]

I guess my overall point was that I take great issue with anyone stating that you dislike Nolan's films as some kind of contrarian stance.

I very much appreciate this.

[MacGuffin]

Does anyone here like Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors? I'm going to give it a watch this weekend if I can.

[soitgoes...]

Does anyone here like Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors? I'm going to give it a watch this weekend if I can.

I liked it. Miles better than that Pomegranates movie.

[megladon8]

I very much appreciate this.

Back from dinner.

I really hope I was in no way over-stepping a boundary, claiming to know what you think (but on the other end of the spectrum).

[megladon8]

A re-watch of Alien Resurrection last night made me think that, wow, that movie is...um...kind of brilliant.

[Scar]

Yeah, I hated Ressurection in theatres, but recently rewatched it, and thought it was alright. I'd still rank it 4th in the Alien series, though.

[B-side]

Does anyone here like Shadows of Forgotten Ancestors? I'm going to give it a watch this weekend if I can.

It's great.

[Derek]

Understood

I guess my overall point was that I take great issue with anyone stating that you dislike Nolan's films as some kind of contrarian stance.

But...did anyone do this? Seems odd to take issue with something that didn't actually happen.

[Spinal]

Really, I think it's more a matter of not liking Schumacher's film more so much as it is disliking it less.

I'll take Octopussy over Casino Royale. That's kind of sorta the same thing, right?

[Sycophant]

I've occasionally thought about creating a joke account that is an actual arbitrary contrarian to see how Match Cut reacts. But good lord that could be exhausting, and maybe get me banned.

[Winston*]

I've occasionally thought about creating a joke account that is an actual arbitrary contrarian to see how Match Cut reacts. But good lord that could be exhausting, and maybe get me banned.

+ you'd just be repeating what I already did with my Irish account.

[Scar]

I'll take Octopussy over Casino Royale. That's kind of sorta the same thing, right?

Eww.

[Spinal]

+ you'd just be repeating what I already did with my Irish account.

:lol:

[Skitch]

But...did anyone do this? Seems odd to take issue with something that didn't actually happen.

I was kinda hoping that was not how I was being perceived, because that not what I was meaning.

[megladon8]

Yeah, I hated Ressurection in theatres, but recently rewatched it, and thought it was alright. I'd still rank it 4th in the Alien series, though.

Yeah, it's definitely the weakest of the series for me.

But I've grown to like it a heckuva lot. It originally hated it, then thought it was "OK", and now I think it's a damn good movie.

Man, they ramped up the psycho-sexual imagery to 11 in that movie. The ooey-gooey factor is also at an obscene level.

[megladon8]

But...did anyone do this? Seems odd to take issue with something that didn't actually happen.

Sven has often been accused of contrarianism because he has tastes that differ from the MatchCut "norm".

I guess I did misunderstand what was being directed at Sven's thoughts in the first place, for which I apologize.

[D_Davis]

I'll take Octopussy over Casino Royale. That's kind of sorta the same thing, right?

Oh hell yeah. I'll take fuckin' Moonraker over Casino Royale. I fell asleep in the theater during CR.

[Scar]

Oh hell yeah. I'll take fuckin' Moonraker over Casino Royale. I fell asleep in the theater during CR.

:|

[balmakboor]

Did anyone else watch "Life in a Day" while it was showing on youtube this evening? The Q&A is happening from Sundance right now.

I was only able to watch the first 35 minutes, but I thought it was great. Way beyond my expectations. People sent in a total of about 4,500 hours of footage and they carved a 90 minute film out of it. (Yeah, with that kind of shooting ratio I would hope they could make something pretty great.)

My daughter sent in about 30 minutes of footage. None of it used of course, but she had fun and looks forward to seeing the finished film to learn how other creative people approached the assignment.

[Ezee E]

What type of footage were you suppose to send?