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    The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan, 2012)

    David Goyer revealed in an interview with MTV that "...while nothing is concrete, both a villain and a theme have been bandied about."

    I think it's interesting that his seems much more psyched about the apparent theme they are going for, rather than the villain.

    The interview is here.
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    Did Goyer have any involvement in 2 at all?

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    Did Goyer have any involvement in 2 at all?

    Yes, he came up with a lot of the story.

    I'm pretty sure that the stuff involving...

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    I figure the Nolans took story elements from him, then wrote their own dialogue and "depth" into the story, since his scripts tend to be pretty piss-poor.
    "All right, that's too hot. Anything we can do about that heat?"

    "Rick...it's a flamethrower."

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    I haven't seen Dark Knight yet... but I'm guessing
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    Quote Quoting Dukefrukem (view post)
    I haven't seen Dark Knight yet... but I'm guessing
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    Good guess.

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    Quote Quoting Kurosawa Fan (view post)
    Good guess.
    Might as well not even see the movie at this point. Good work duke.

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    funny. but they could always throw a 2nd or 3rd villian in. i dunno if anything happened at the end of dark knight so...

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    Quote Quoting Spinal (view post)
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    That was the first movie. Get with it. We're talking about number three here.

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    i'm kind of hoping for black mask. they did ra's al ghul and scarecrow, so i'm not sure that's too obscure for them. the riddler seems like the obvious choice. as long as they don't do the penguin.

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    I think the Penguin done right could make for an effective villain, but since they are going for "more realism" The Riddler would make a great deal more sense.
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    Quote Quoting ledfloyd (view post)
    i'm kind of hoping for black mask. they did ra's al ghul and scarecrow, so i'm not sure that's too obscure for them. the riddler seems like the obvious choice. as long as they don't do the penguin.
    Wow, Black Mask is a pretty good idea - wouldn't have thought of that. I'd like Penguin as a supporting villain, it's not like he's a fantasy character in the comic, just in the Burton movies, but Nolan has already said he doesn't like it.

    I'd like the Riddler but...

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    A third Batman movie would HAVE to include Robin. It's the next natural step - Batman/Wayne as a reluctant father figure.

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    Robin just wouldn't fit in this world.

    Nolan's Batman is so very against putting anyone else in danger, to then take a child and put their life on the line would make no sense with what has already been established.

    Also, Aaron Eckhart has agreed to do another film, so I guess we haven't seen the last of Two-Face.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Robin just wouldn't fit in this world.

    Nolan's Batman is so very against putting anyone else in danger, to then take a child and put their life on the line would make no sense with what has already been established.
    This is true.

    What if Robin just took the choice into his own hands and proved so able at it that Batman would have no choice but to accept his help? In the comics, I always get the vibe that it was Alfred the one who was dead-set against jeopardizing a young life, while Batman related more to how Dick Grayson felt - which is why he felt like a dick about the Jason Todd thing. In the movies it could be the other way around.

    I'm just going wild with speculation here. Most likely the Nolan brothers don't want anything to do with Robin, given how realistic they want to keep the whole thing.

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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Robin just wouldn't fit in this world.

    Nolan's Batman is so very against putting anyone else in danger, to then take a child and put their life on the line would make no sense with what has already been established.
    This is an interesting observation - good call.

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    Their is zero chance of Robin being in the next film.
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    Quote Quoting megladon8 (view post)
    Also, Aaron Eckhart has agreed to do another film, so I guess we haven't seen the last of Two-Face.
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    Quote Quoting Ivan Drago (view post)
    Woah really? Do you have a link?
    It was on IMDB today...

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    Eckhart Agrees To Third Batman Film

    23 July 2008 9:10 AM, PDT | From wenn.com | See recent WENN news

    Aaron Eckhart would reprise his role from The Dark Knight - because working with Christian Bale is "phenomenal".

    Eckhart, who plays District Attorney Harvey Dent in the sequel, confesses he "absolutely" would star in a third Batman film.

    He tells WENN, "To work with Christian (Bale) all over again, and the cast, would be phenomenal. I think this movie is a movie of a lifetime."
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    He's only saying he WOULD do a third movie. Nobody has ASKED him to yet.

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    And it's IMDB.

    Two-Face could certainly be living though as I think about it. I just hope they don't go that route.

    My idea would be going along the lines of Mad Hatter with a mind-controlling theme or Poison Ivy with some EPA shiz, maybe get one of the creatures involved in that way, Man-Bat being the best. But still, blegh. If Heath were around, sure, Joker. But...

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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    And it's IMDB.

    Two-Face could certainly be living though as I think about it. I just hope they don't go that route.

    My idea would be going along the lines of Mad Hatter with a mind-controlling theme or Poison Ivy with some EPA shiz, maybe get one of the creatures involved in that way, Man-Bat being the best. But still, blegh. If Heath were around, sure, Joker. But...
    Poison Ivy would make for a terrible villain. Mad Hatter could only work as a secondary villain, seeing as how he never really was anything more than that. Although based off of the old animated series Mad Hatter was really cool, and he would actually fit in somewhat with the current attempts to keep the movies realistic.
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    Quote Quoting Ezee E (view post)
    And it's IMDB.

    Two-Face could certainly be living though as I think about it. I just hope they don't go that route.

    My idea would be going along the lines of Mad Hatter with a mind-controlling theme or Poison Ivy with some EPA shiz, maybe get one of the creatures involved in that way, Man-Bat being the best. But still, blegh. If Heath were around, sure, Joker. But...
    You think we had enough Two Face in Dark Knight? I don't. I was disappointing. I thought they were just gonna setup Two Face's role in the third film but they ended up pulling a Spiderman 3 on us. I want more Two Face before i see any other villain.

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    I'm glad at least the film didn't preoccupy itself with setting up a third film. It did work fairly well resolving itself without beating us with "COME BACK IN THREE YEARS FOR MORE ZANINESS!" If Two-Face shows up again, meh.

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    Quote Quoting Sycophant (view post)
    I'm glad at least the film didn't preoccupy itself with setting up a third film. It did work fairly well resolving itself without beating us with "COME BACK IN THREE YEARS FOR MORE ZANINESS!" If Two-Face shows up again, meh.
    Agreed. He was fairly lame the first time around, let's not go for round two.

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    As bad as The Batman animated show (the new one! the new one!) can be, the only way I could accept a Robin in this Nolanverse is if it were handled the way Batgirl was handled in said animated show. That is, she does her own thing, Batman refusing to train her, till it becomes unavoidable, and he realizes if he doesn't, they'll keep doing it on their own. THEN he RELUCTANTLY agrees to train the Robin.

    Maybe at the very end of the film...that way, someone else can take over, and completely ruin everything Nolan has created.

    EDIT: I would be very ok with Two-Face being in the third.

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