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Originally Posted by Thirdmango
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Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirdmango
Unfortunately.
Count your blessings, name them one by one.
The Full Tilt Poker forums are the absolute worst. There are some free tournaments which require you to post a certain amount to get into them. Because of this I came upon a guy who's personal motto is, "I have never broken a law that i agreed with!"
I love this idea, it's just born in such falsehood.
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Originally Posted by Thirdmango
I do appreciate how they completely butcher what the book of Job actually says.
I only have her word on what goes on with her family, and she is... shall we say... and unreliable narrator.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dukefrukem
From what she says, her family are awful, awful, hateful people who hurt her for no good reason.
And I'm sure to a point, that is true. She was raised with abuse and some pretty messed-up situations.
But a large part of it seems to be that her family is refusing to support her financially at all anymore. She claims outright that they "never" help her, but from my count they have helped her quite a bit (paying for storage units, helping out with money, buying plane tickets, etc.) There's no question that she's in serious financial straits, and if I were in the same scenario I'd be getting help from my parents, no question. But they are refusing money. So she can't afford a plane ticket to go home to her mother. Her father lives close enough to drive, but she doesn't have a car and her dad has studiously avoided inviting her over. (She says her stepmother hates her.) And she has a sister in Annapolis (30 minutes away) who is not speaking to her or anyone else in the family.
There is a strong implication that her family expected her to be married off by now and she has failed by not doing so. They seem more upset about this than the fact that she can't find or hold a job. She has reached the point where she should no longer be their problem, and as I've mentioned before, she is pretty much incapable of taking care of herself. (Some of this is legitimate-- she has TBI and is disabled.) When she is home, she is punished for not being married, like being put at the "kid's table" and told she can move up when she finds a husband.
And, just as a FYI to Thirdmango, she is active and was raised semi in the church, but her entire family is inactive.
Yeh that's a tough situation to be in... I'm grateful to have family support even if i was in crisis.
That does actually make sense. From what I can tell of what you've said about her, I could imagine her "standing up" to her parents and telling them they should be active and going to church, which could have set them off and is why many of them don't want to talk to her because she will push activity on them. I've known a couple of families where this is the case. There can be a difference in one person being active and one person being active and pushing the others. My grandmother is a good example of this where one of the families in the family stopped going to church and started going to Catholic churches and she made a big to do about it saying it would be better if they didn't believe in anything then if they believed in Catholicism. Which obviously further pushed them away and now they refuse to talk religion around her.
Part of my problem with this is that my family had very strict rules about money.
Never-- NEVER IN MY LIFE-- have I walked up to my parents and asked for cash, and had them hand it to me. That was never expected, and it was never given. The first time I was a teenager and I saw a friend say to her dad, "Hey, can I have twenty bucks"-- and she got it-- I just about choked.
I had a very minor allowance until I was old enough to work, and then I was expected to have a part-time job. If I was off work for a holiday or vacation, the part-time-job became full-time. Right now, my sister is in from out of town for only three weeks, but my dad got her a full-time job.
Not that my parents have never contributed financially to me. They most certainly did. They paid for part of my college education (although not all, and I always worked) and they recently helped me with the closing costs on my house-- to a point. When costs went higher than we initially agreed, they paid the money, but I had to pay back the difference. Which was completely fair.
But when it comes to non-money things, my parents are incredibly generous. Twice in my adult life I've moved home, and I've been treated with warmth and compassion. I sometimes had to reasonably contribute financially (helping with food budget, paying the difference in utilities) and physically (cooking, cleaning, chores, picking up parents from work, etc.) but I was never unwelcome. I'm thirty-one years old, and when I visit home my dad gives me a bag full of things that he's worried I may not have-- dish soap, groceries, motor oil, you name it.
So, while I'm baffled by my roommate being hurt that she's not being given checks ever month, I really feel for her that her family doesn't seem to want anything to do with her.
I hadn't thought about it, but she might do that. She'd be more passive-aggressive about it, but I don't doubt that she gets seriously judgmental about those things.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirdmango
She has some weird weird WEIRD unsupportable doctrine unique to her that she keeps trying to discuss with me. I just refuse to answer her or engage.
My immediate family has had a history of being stridently anti-Catholic as well, that they "aren't real Christians" and "don't understand the Gospel". This despite my grandmother (mom's mom) being devoutly Catholic, particularly since my grandfather passed away, and almost all of my mother's side of the family being practicing Catholics. They usually reserve speaking about these opinions to those who agree with them, however.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thirdmango
Ooh, I'd like to hear about that, if you don't mind. Weird, unsupportable doctrine is fun. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Mara
My parents gave me money all the time. Oh well. Now I'm an electrical engineer, currently in grad school and can afford to buy them big Christmas gifts. The cycle continues...
Personally, I think *all* doctrines are weird and unsupportable, but I too would like to hear more about this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara
Man, I don't even know if I'd want to get into it, especially on MC, where religion is such a touchy subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisnu
But here's one that comes up all the time.
The official position in my church is that you should date and marry within the faith, and raise your children within the faith. You're not going to be in trouble for marrying outside the faith, but it's just not ideal. I could get into the doctrinal justification of it, but that could go on all day.
Even if it wasn't a rule, though, I think it would be MY rule. I can't handle dating outside my political party-- entirely different faith systems would cause such a massive discord in a relationship that I would just sort of see it as a dealbreaker.
Like this:
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Anyway.
My roommate has decided that it is not just okay to date or marry outside the faith-- but that we have an OBLIGATION to do so. That it should be shouted from the pulpit. That she should be congratulated for marrying her boyfriend (whom she's never met, but that's a different thing).
As far as I can tell, it's a weird conversion tactic. Similar to "Date 'em, Dunk 'em, Dump 'em" which was strongly condemned by an old bishop of mine.
In this particular parlance, "unsupportable" would mean that it can't be supported by the Bible, church doctrine, etc. Something that came out of thin air, and isn't canon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eleven
Oh, I know totally what you mean. I went through elementary and high school of Catholic education, which turned out to be a good secular education plus loads of doctrine that I can now more knowledgeably argue against.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara
Here is a for instance for everyone. BYU is the big school in the religion. One of the rules at the school is that men may not have unkempt hair which means no hair over the ear or beards unless doctor approved or theater approved. Which leads my 35 year old cousin to conclude that I should not have long hair because long hair is not allowed in heaven and I would just have to cut it off when I got there anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mara
I can understand that doctrine. My church talked about refraining from being "unequally yoked" (2 Cor. 6:14) quite a lot, but they extended that to not only marriage, but also spending time with people who aren't Christians for more time than necessary. Their "worldly influence" was going to rub off on you.
However, using marriage as an effort to proselytize sounds not only utterly disastrous, but also I agree that it's doctrinally indefensible.
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Originally Posted by Thirdmango
So, yeah, a lot of people disagree with Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1 Corinthians 11:14-16
It's baaaaaaaaaaaaaaad news.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisnu
I've never heard a whisper in my church about not being friends or spending lots of time with people outside the church, but they're pretty solid in the marriage rules.
I am glad I live in an age where Ghostface Killah's twitter exists.
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Snowboarded for the second time. This time away from the "training lifts" and oh man am I beat.
Nice! Loving it? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezee E
Definitely. It certainly is something that takes practice. My first run seemed like I forgot everything, and it started coming back to me after that. Can't toe turn worth shit, and I get jealous of the guys that can create snow-waterfalls on their quick turns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Qrazy
I did take pictures, but I need a different usb to upload them. It's amazing that within a span of just 15 miles, Colorado can go from winter wonderland to what looks like an autumn uh... awesomeness?
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